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On Immigration, Scott Walker Bucks the Beltway Consensus
National Review ^ | 04/22/2015 | Ian Tuttle

Posted on 04/22/2015 12:35:10 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 04/22/2015 12:35:10 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Scott has a problem.

He states his immigration policy has changed.

What do you do if you want to protect the jobs of U. S. Citizens? Don’t you send back the people who are here illegally holding down jobs?

In this video clip his old (2013) policy is aired in a second video clip. He backs illegals staying in the U. S. if they pay a fine.

It is also mentioned that he favored the McCain/Kennedy immigration bill. (You know, amnesty but not an amnesty) He acknowledges that.

Then in this (03/01/2015) clip, Walker is asked if illegals can stay, if they pay a fine. He responds with, I believes a way can be found to do that.

This is the same policy as his old policy.

Then he states that his policy has changed. No Scott, it hasn’t changed. You just got through endorsing the same policy, illegals being allowed to stay in our country if they pay a fine. So you even fibbed about it.

In 2006/07, 2013, and now in 2015, his immigration policy regarding illegal immigrants is the same as that under McCain/Kennedy. Let them pay a fine and stay.

Immigration is discussed starting at 9:20 and the “...a way can be found...” is located at 10:20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uymMeeRV1RU


2 posted on 04/22/2015 12:36:40 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The question, Jeb Bush? The answer: NO! Rove, is a devious propagandist & enemy of Conservatives!)
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To: DoughtyOne

1. Under your criteria, you would not have voted for Ronald Reagan.

2. Under this criterion: “What do you do if you want to protect the jobs of U. S. Citizens? Don’t you send back the people who are here illegally holding down jobs?” ... you will not be voting for Ted Cruz


3 posted on 04/22/2015 12:43:58 PM PDT by kidd
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To: SeekAndFind

Scott Walker may be late to find the right position here, but he may be for real. Sen. Sessions may have gotten his mind right.
There is another post attacking him by Matt Lewis, paid mouthpiece for The Cheap Labor Express, that tells me they’re not happy that he has taken this stance.


4 posted on 04/22/2015 12:44:29 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: SeekAndFind
Correction:

"On Immigration, Scott Walker Changes His Mind and Bucks the Beltway Consensus"

There. That's better.

5 posted on 04/22/2015 12:46:27 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (I want the Halal butcher to cut up my pig. If he doesn't, I'm filing charges.)
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To: kidd

Kidd, if you’re okay with your politicians lying to you, why not vote for Obama?

You see, two can play that game.

I don’t care to support someone who lies to me.

This whole “NEW AND WONDERFUL” immigration plan of his is a fraud.

He’ll allow them to stay, and he isn’t that concerned about Americans and their jobs.


6 posted on 04/22/2015 12:47:07 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The question, Jeb Bush? The answer: NO! Rove, is a devious propagandist & enemy of Conservatives!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Can somebody explain to me what is new about what Walker said? Granted it is different than what he said behind closed doors a couple of weeks ago, but Cruz has consistently said from the beginning that we must enforce our current immigrattion laws and seal thweborder. What’s new?


7 posted on 04/22/2015 12:53:16 PM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: DoughtyOne

The next president and the next Congress need to make decisions about a legal-immigration system that’s based on, first and foremost, protecting American workers and American wages. . . . What is [current legal immigration policy] doing for American workers? What is this doing to wages? We need to have that be at the forefront of our discussion going forward.

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Discussion? We have well established immigration that law that isn’t being enforced by the crooks in Washington. We don’t need a discussion.


8 posted on 04/22/2015 12:57:23 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Scott Walker has a long list of accomplishments, so it should be pretty easy to add some teeth to your perception that Walker is lying about illegal immigration.

To convince me that Walker is lying, you’d have to provide a substantial example of a case where Walker promised something conservative and then enacted something liberal.


9 posted on 04/22/2015 1:27:15 PM PDT by kidd
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To: SeekAndFind

I know I am extreme on immigration, but honestly, whether it were Cruz or some other candidate, if someone came out with these positions son immigration, I would walk over coals to vote for them.

1. Secure the border with verification.

2. Begin massive deportation of illegal immigrants, starting with those who have broken other laws.

3. Revoke citizenship for all whose parents were in the country illegally at the time of their birth and end anchor baby citizenship for any future births.

4. Put on notice all who are here illegally that wish to ever become a citizen should return to their country of origin. If you are deported for illegal entry, you will revoke any future path to citizenship.

I am fed up with leeches who invade our country, bleed our social services and ravage our educational systems.

I may be wrong, but I think there are enough people like me who would vote for that candidate to put them in the White House.


10 posted on 04/22/2015 1:32:03 PM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: kidd

Or I could document Scott’s past and current policy statements, reveal their similarities, and his statements that contrast with them, which is exactly what I did.


11 posted on 04/22/2015 1:32:22 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The question, Jeb Bush? The answer: NO! Rove, is a devious propagandist & enemy of Conservatives!)
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To: conservativejoy

>>Can somebody explain to me what is new about what Walker said?<<

Walker moved the conversation to “legal” immigration by raising the issue that legal immigration levels set by law should consider the impact on American wages. Given that both the Left and the Right are now contesting him, he’s obviously onto something.

The Left fears loss of an issue, income inequality, because curtailing legal immigration would be a market-based way of addressing low wages and the impact on income inequality.

The Right just plain wants more workers for employers, but it goes deeper than that. There’s a current of economic thinking that increasing the workforce increases GDP. While it might do that, it also depresses wages below what they would be otherwise. In fact, a highly-trained, and stable, workforce might increase GDP even faster than a larger workforce, given the chance. You also see their argument in the “we need more young workers to support retirees” sort of statement. There might be some truth in all this, but Walker wants to have the discussion. And don’t be surprised if a whole bunch of voters, even Independent and Democrat voters, want to have that same discussion. In fact, even Hispanics here legally and blacks who can’t find jobs might want to have it.

One additional factor: if you’re debating how much to restrict legal immigration, it goes without saying that illegal immigration has to be curtailed. That same debate will encompass determining how many of those already here illegally should be issued work permits and allowed to stay and how many should be returned to their home countries.

I don’t know how this position will work out for him, but he’s got all the right people upset, in my opinion, including the crony capitalists.


12 posted on 04/22/2015 1:45:59 PM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left....completely!)
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To: Uncle Miltie

RE: “On Immigration, Scott Walker Changes His Mind and Bucks the Beltway Consensus”

One can always change one’s mind, but the real test comes when you have to propose a bill or sign one.

Other than that, it’s “Read My Lips” all over again.


13 posted on 04/22/2015 1:51:40 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

“you’ve got to ask yourself one question: ‘Do I feel lucky?’ Well, do ya, punk?”

< / Clint >


14 posted on 04/22/2015 1:54:13 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (I want the Halal butcher to cut up my pig. If he doesn't, I'm filing charges.)
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To: conservativejoy

I don’t think you’re wrong at all.

What’s more, politicians know it or they wouldn’t try to misrepresent their views.

Allowing them to stay is amnesty, no matter how you spin it

Telling folks you’ll find a way to let them stay, is not the same as not allowing them to stay

Who knew?


15 posted on 04/22/2015 2:07:19 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The question, Jeb Bush? The answer: NO! Rove, is a devious propagandist & enemy of Conservatives!)
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To: Norseman

Thank you for that clarification. Compared to illegal immigration, legal immigration is not unreasonably high. I think people are so disillusioned by what illegals have done to the country that they are soured on the whole process. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.


16 posted on 04/22/2015 2:37:02 PM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: DoughtyOne

“This whole “NEW AND WONDERFUL” immigration plan of his is a fraud.”

Prove it.


17 posted on 04/22/2015 4:10:52 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: sergeantdave

I did. Thanks for playing.


18 posted on 04/22/2015 4:22:28 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The question, Jeb Bush? The answer: NO! Rove, is a devious propagandist & enemy of Conservatives!)
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To: DoughtyOne

“I did. Thanks for playing.”

You proved nothing. Thanks for playing.


19 posted on 04/22/2015 4:26:38 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: sergeantdave

Okay, then you’ve just listed yourself as a person who can’t watch and listen to a video and discern truth from it.

Snarks lose ace.


20 posted on 04/22/2015 4:36:08 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The question, Jeb Bush? The answer: NO! Rove, is a devious propagandist & enemy of Conservatives!)
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