Posted on 04/19/2015 2:40:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
“The difference is purely in implementation. If you had a philosophical discussion on what the world should look like, there would be no difference.”
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Rand Paul’s brother says that when it comes to ideology, there’s “no difference” between his brother, the Kentucky senator and Republican presidential candidate, and his father, the former congressman and three-time presidential candidate.
Ronnie Paul, the eldest son of the former congressman and sometimes-surrogate for his brother, was speaking with libertarian podcaster Israel Anderson. He said that both his brother and father held the same beliefs, there’s just a difference in the implementation of how to get there.
“The difference is purely in implementation,” Paul’s eldest son said. “If you had a philosophical discussion on what the world should look like, there would be no difference.”
As he runs for president, Rand Paul faces the task of both appealing to a broader set of mainstream Republican primary voters, while maintaining enough credibility with the vast Paul family libertarian network to get those people to the polls in early states.
Over the last year, he has sharpened his rhetoric on defense and terrorism. He signed Sen. Tom Cotton’s letter about a potential Iran nuclear deal and recently proposed increasing defense spending, though the increase was offset by other cuts. Last summer, he supported intervention against ISIS, and said, in his presidential announcement speech, “the enemy is radical Islam, you can’t get around it.” When he was a surrogate for his dad in 2007 and 2008 the Kentucky senator often spoke of American interventionism as a cause of terrorism and the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.
“Basically, if we’re both going the same place you may have a favorite way to get there and I may have a little different way to get there. We both are going to the same place and I can’t even say that your way maybe is better than my way, you know, we can debate all day long which way is the best way,” said Ronnie Paul in the recent interview.
“So they’ve taken different paths. Do you take little pieces at a time, do you try for the whole thing at one time? You know, there’s all different debate on how do you get to ultimately limited government, a pro-American defense foreign policy and Bill of rights, individual liberties for the people at home.”
Ronnie Paul added in a philosophical discussion on ideology there “would be no difference” between his dad and brother and “the end goal without a doubt is the same.”
“I mean, the goal is the same and I’d be willing to wager we could get everybody who listens to this and we can agree on the vision we’re going to and we’d probably have, if we had 100 people in the room we could have 100 different paths. The path is a little different; the end goal without a doubt is the same.”
“The difference is purely in implementation. If you had a philosophical discussion on what the world should look like, there would be no difference.”
It seems that you are not really a libertarian, neither were our people who created this nation.
Goldwater did change the party because we are here. Goldwater ergo sum.
I am, therefore you should cease your narrow-minded and negative view of libertarians.
In the same way I am all for capital punishment for anyone that murders or does grave harm to another. A dead criminal will never do the crime again, so to me it isn't really punishment, but insurance. I still say that I am libertarian in that the most important things in life are freedom (liberty) and by extension property.
Rand Paul On Shutdown: "Even Though It Appeared I Was Participating In It, It Was A Dumb Idea"I said throughout the whole battle that shutting down the government was a dumb idea. Even though it did appear as if I was participating in it, I said it was a dumb idea. And the reason I voted for it, though, is that it's a conundrum. Here's the conundrum. We have a $17 trillion debt and people at home tell me you can't give the president a blank check. We just can't keep raising the debt ceiling without conditions. So unconditionally raising the debt ceiling, nobody at home wants me to vote for that and I can't vote for that. But the conundrum is if I don't we do approach these deadlines. So there is an impasse. In 2011, though, we had this impasse and the president did negotiate. We got the sequester. If we were to extend the sequester from discretionary spending to all the entitlements we would actually fix our problem within a few years.[Posted on 11/19/2013 12:16:51 PM by Third Person]
Rand Paul: Time for GOP to soften war stance...by softening its edge on some volatile social issues and altering its image as the party always seemingly "eager to go to war... We do need to expand the party and grow the party and that does mean that we don't always all agree on every issue" ... the party needs to become more welcoming to individuals who disagree with basic Republican doctrine on emotional social issues such as gay marriage... "We're going to have to be a little hands off on some of these issues ... and get people into the party," Paul said.[Posted on 01/31/2013 5:08:50 PM PST by xzins]
Rand Paul's immigration speech...The Republican Party must embrace more legal immigration.[Posted on 03/19/2013 7:04:07 AM PDT by Perdogg]
Unfortunately, like many of the major debates in Washington, immigration has become a stalemate-where both sides are imprisoned by their own rhetoric or attachment to sacred cows that prevent the possibility of a balanced solution.
Immigration Reform will not occur until Conservative Republicans, like myself, become part of the solution. I am here today to begin that conversation.
Let's start that conversation by acknowledging we aren't going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants.
If you wish to work, if you wish to live and work in America, then we will find a place for you...
This is where prudence, compassion and thrift all point us toward the same goal: bringing these workers out of the shadows and into being taxpaying members of society.
Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers.12 million more people assimilating into society. 12 million more people being productive contributors.
Rand Paul calls on conservatives to embrace immigration reformLatinos, should be a natural constituency for the party, Paul argued, but "Republicans have pushed them away with harsh rhetoric over immigration." ...he would create a bipartisan panel to determine how many visas should be granted for workers already in the United States and those who might follow... [and the buried lead] "Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers...[Posted on 04/21/2013 1:52:42 PM PDT by SoConPubbie]
[but he's not in favor of amnesty, snicker, definition of is is]
Rand Slams Congress for Funding Egypt's Generals: 'How Does Your Conscience Feel Now?'Sen. Rand Paul is hammering his fellow senators for keeping billions in financial aid flowing to Egypt's military -- even as Cairo's security forces massacre anti-government activists. [by "anti-government activists" is meant church-burning Christian-murdering jihadists][Posted on 08/15/2013 5:44:10 PM PDT by Hoodat]
Libertarianism is not Left Wing on social issues.
They believe in minding own business in the world. Strong national defense. No alliances, no defending of multinationals overseas. No sacrifice of American soldiers for foreign interests. I support all of these.
Social issues like homosexual marriage. They think that people can do what they want in the social sphere. But also, libertarians are free NOT to associate or be with people they do not like or agree with. Libertarians do not buy the public school system to which so many conservatives use and lose their children. They can run their companies as they see fit working with whomever they want.
On abortion: people do as they see fit, but a libertarian does not have to pay for the abortion of others.
On drugs: libertarians believe in an open drug policy. So do I. Work in the field. If people want drugs let them buy them at the drug store. Caveat: No publicly funded healthcare or services for folks testing positive for
drugs. If the privates like the Sallies or Catholic Charities want to step up with donations, great, but people can destroy themselves on their own dime.
Of course they are left wing on social issues, what you call “They believe in minding own business in the world.”
Except they don’t of course, they want to make law to implement and maintain left wing social liberalism.
They are WEAK on national defense, why would you claim just the opposite of what they really are?
Homosexual marriage, even you agree they support that.
Seriously, you support them on abortion?
To quote you “On abortion: people do as they see fit, but a libertarian does not have to pay for the abortion of others.”
You can believe the fairy tales you want to believe. You have no idea of what you are talking about.
No drama-llama for me today.
Cheers
Seriously? You want to promote that?
On abortion: people do as they see fit, but a libertarian does not have to pay for the abortion of others.”
Seriously? You want to promote that?
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No, but it is better than being forced to pay for the abortions of others, who are doing as they see fit, as it is now.
So you are adamantly opposed to the libertarian position on abortion?
Why did you post it in what appeared to be a supportive way?
Would you accept Rand Paul being libertarian on abortion?
No, I do not support abortion, the libertarian perspective, takes me out of having to pay for other peoples abortions which is better than what I have now, which is that I am forced to pay.
The libertarian “perspective” is rabidly pro-abortion, full term, with zero restrictions or speed bumps.
Why do you keep selling them to us on abortion and gay marriage?
The libertarian “perspective” is rabidly pro-abortion, full term, with zero restrictions or speed bumps.
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You don’t know what you are talking about.
Libertarians allow people freedom, it is the ultimate going galt, and I am ok with it. I could care less what others think
Didn’t you just describe their position as pure, 100% pro-abortion?
“”On abortion: people do as they see fit””
No 100% freedom, including freedom from
So a 100% freedom, means 100% abortion freedom for you, like it does for the libertarians.
What is the difference between calling it simply a pro-abortion position, instead of a “pro-freedom” position?
I don’t have to support abortion in any way. That is my freedom.
So as long as people pay for their own abortions, they are having freedom as well.
It sounds like you do support the libertarian position on abortion, which is why you posted it and keep praising and defending it.
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