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A U.S.-Russia War Over Ukraine?
Townhall.com ^ | April 17, 2015 | Pat Bchanan

Posted on 04/17/2015 3:40:50 PM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 04/17/2015 3:40:50 PM PDT by Kaslin
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Apparently this is an ‘advisor’ sent to Ukraine. SMH.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=60d_1429290935


2 posted on 04/17/2015 3:46:39 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (The White House is now known as "Casa Blanca".)
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To: Kaslin

Interestingly, FR has a good half dozen or so anti-Americans that support the Russians.

If Russia actually attacked NATO forces and our soldiers were engaged in combat with Russian invaders, then I think they would not find favor here.


3 posted on 04/17/2015 3:48:29 PM PDT by ansel12 (libertarian social liberalism makes conservative small limited government & low taxes impossible.)
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To: Kaslin

“Wars and rumors of wars” ... that’s what the Bible calls it!


4 posted on 04/17/2015 3:49:13 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: ansel12

Was it “anti-American” in 1939 to suggest not going to war with Nazi Germany when they invaded Poland? Yes, in hindsight, we should have tried to stop Hitler as soon as possible, but we don’t have that luxury.

We can debate whether or not to aid Ukraine without suggesting those who disagree are “Anti-American.”


5 posted on 04/17/2015 3:52:00 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: ansel12

Canada, the US, and Europe are just defending Ukraine,a sovereign and independent country.

If there is war, it will be Russia that starts it.


6 posted on 04/17/2015 3:54:22 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: Kaslin

I just remember that bread basket thing in history class.


7 posted on 04/17/2015 3:56:42 PM PDT by TBall
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Even with all the downgrades and emasculation of our military Obama has wrought, Russia is still no match for our troops. Their political leadership and its willingness to engage, however...


8 posted on 04/17/2015 3:58:16 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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If the discussions here become about our military attacking the Russian Army in Ukraine, then you can bring that up, in the meanwhile, try not to use that tactic of changing the facts.

Our concern is Russia and their current war as they conquer right up to NATO borders and Putin threatens all of the west and America with war and nuclear annihilation.

Right now you need to back off your support of Putin a little.


9 posted on 04/17/2015 3:59:19 PM PDT by ansel12 (libertarian social liberalism makes conservative small limited government & low taxes impossible.)
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Right, Ukraine is a friend and we conduct military exercises there and we have every right to conduct training with them.

It is a little early for America to surrender to Russia.


10 posted on 04/17/2015 4:01:46 PM PDT by ansel12 (libertarian social liberalism makes conservative small limited government & low taxes impossible.)
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To: Kaslin

This is about Russia and the other BRICS nations breaking out of the Wall-St/London/Rothschild banking and money system. It amounts to the US military being used by George Soros and the Rothschilds for dark purposes.


11 posted on 04/17/2015 4:02:08 PM PDT by leopardseal
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To: ansel12

I don’t support Putin. I actually do support aiding Ukraine, but I also understand the reasoning behind those who do think we shouldn’t be involved there, it’s not out of love for Putin.

Most people who believed we should have stayed out of Europe in ‘39 didn’t think that way because they supported Hitler. It’s a question of is it worth it to us, and should this be handled by Europe first because we get involved. Yes, I know they are bordering NATO and all that, but it seems we are the ones doing all of the heavy lifting here.


12 posted on 04/17/2015 4:02:44 PM PDT by dfwgator
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When are you going to drop all the 1939, us going to war nonsense?

Why don’t you stay with the actual conversation?

Why should we and other nations cease our normal relationship with Ukraine, are you wanting us to surrender to someone already?


13 posted on 04/17/2015 4:10:21 PM PDT by ansel12 (libertarian social liberalism makes conservative small limited government & low taxes impossible.)
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We stood all alone against Napoleon and against Hitler.'"

Yeah, well, they stood WITH Hitler in 1939.

14 posted on 04/17/2015 4:12:16 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: ought-six

With the cowardly Gen. Martin Dempsey as the head of JCS, we would surrender within an hour.


15 posted on 04/17/2015 4:18:43 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (madmax)
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To: Kaslin

The world wouldn’t be discussing this if Clintoon hadn’t suckered them into getting rid of the nukes they had...


16 posted on 04/17/2015 4:27:57 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: ought-six

Putin knows that he would lose his military quickly if he engaged NATO, and he also knows that he can’t afford to be left defenseless with his East exposed and his internal problems, and a 15% Muslim population, and no economy to rebuild his Air Force and his military equipment, and to pay his draftee military.


17 posted on 04/17/2015 4:32:19 PM PDT by ansel12 (libertarian social liberalism makes conservative small limited government & low taxes impossible.)
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To: leopardseal
This is about Russia and the other BRICS nations breaking out of the Wall-St/London/Rothschild banking and money system.

You break out of a financial system by attacking an innocent country?

Explain that.


18 posted on 04/17/2015 5:13:24 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: Kaslin

All the Russian fellows I ever met were either hotheads or at the best semi-pissed off. The Russian women are pretty nice however.


19 posted on 04/17/2015 5:38:48 PM PDT by pleasenotcalifornia
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“Interestingly, FR has a good half dozen or so anti-Americans that support the Russians.”

Stop it. Those half dozen or so are saying that Putin is more of a man than our boy King. Admiration for Putin came about because he smacked Obama over the nose with a newspaper aft Syria and Obama went whining back under the porch.

I disagree with everything he stands for, but at least he stands for something.


20 posted on 04/17/2015 6:01:33 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (two if by van, one if by broom)
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