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Graham Knocks Cruz On Guns And Tyranny: 'We Tried That Once... I'm Not Looking For An Insurrection'
Talking Points Memo ^ | 4/16/2015 | Sahil Kapor

Posted on 04/16/2015 12:53:07 PM PDT by VinL

Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz's argument that the Second Amendment provides the "ultimate check against government tyranny" is a bit too extreme for potential 2016 rival and fellow Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC).

"Well, we tried that once in South Carolina. I wouldn't go down that road again," Graham said, in an apparent reference to the Civil War. "I think an informed electorate is probably a better check than, you know, guns in the streets."

Speaking to a few reporters near the Senate floor Thursday, Graham was answering questions from TPM about the Texas firebrand and presidential candidate's argument made in a fundraising email that the Second Amendment confers a right to revolt against the government.

"The 2nd Amendment to the Constitution isn't for just protecting hunting rights, and it's not only to safeguard your right to target practice. It is a Constitutional right to protect your children, your family, your home, our lives, and to serve as the ultimate check against governmental tyranny -- for the protection of liberty," Cruz wrote in the email Thursday, with the subject line "2nd Amendment against tyranny."

Graham demurred. "I'm not looking for an insurrection. I'm looking to defeat Hillary," he said. "We're not going to out-gun her."

While a consistent supporter of gun rights, Graham voiced a more mainstream legal view of the Second Amendment, as the Supreme Court first articulated in the landmark 2008 case District of Columbia v. Heller, that individuals have a right to possess a firearm for lawful self-defense.

"I think the Second Amendment allows people to protect their homes and their property and be secure in their persons," the senator said. "I think in a democracy the best check on government is voter participation. I think the First Amendment probably protects us more there."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: South Carolina; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2016election; 2ndamendment; banglist; cruz; election2016; lindseygraham; secondamendment; southcarolina; tedcruz; texas
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To: VinL

Graham will be going for the squishy, RINO vote.


21 posted on 04/16/2015 1:02:58 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (True followers of Christ emulate Christ. True followers of Mohammed emulate Mohammed.)
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To: VinL
I wouldn't go down that road again...

Linda is being so civil-warish, when Cruz was talking solely about 1776.

22 posted on 04/16/2015 1:03:18 PM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: VinL

C’mon Linduh!

Come out of the closet, you panzy ass, intellectual, insurrectionist.


23 posted on 04/16/2015 1:03:32 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: VinL
Lindsey defines much of what is very wrong with the Republican establishment in Washington. He hardly represents the once very Conservative spirit of South Carolina. He denounced those of us who favor a traditional stance on immigration as "bigots," back in 2006, and favors an immigration policy that will virtually assure that we do not have the votes to preserve the values of the Founding Fathers.

Here is the letter I sent the insulting twit, in response to that epithet at the time: Letter to Lindsey Graham.

24 posted on 04/16/2015 1:03:33 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: VinL
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25 posted on 04/16/2015 1:03:49 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: VinL
Graham demurred. "I'm not looking for an insurrection. I'm looking to defeat Hillary," he said. "We're not going to out-gun her."

Ya ain't gonna outsmart her either. Graham has had his head up is a$$ for so long, his biological refuse is smarter than he is.

26 posted on 04/16/2015 1:03:57 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (POPOF. President Of Pants On Fire.)
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To: jospehm20

well ya beat me to it ...


27 posted on 04/16/2015 1:04:10 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our Government ... Lead!!!!)
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To: Regulator

Flimsey Tinkerbelle doesn’t even realize that South Carolina took part in two insurrections, the Revolutionary War & the War Between the States.

So Grahamnasty hates Ted Cruz? That’s one more plus for Cruz.

CRUZ or Lose!


28 posted on 04/16/2015 1:04:22 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("O Muslim! My bullets are dipped in pig grease.")
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To: VinL

29 posted on 04/16/2015 1:04:30 PM PDT by Slyfox (If I'm ever accused of being a Christian, I'd like there to be enough evidence to convict me)
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To: BenLurkin
"I think an informed electorate is probably a better check than, you know, guns in the streets."

If we had an informed electorate, he'd be saying "Do you want fries with that?"

30 posted on 04/16/2015 1:05:01 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: VinL

-— I think an informed electorate is probably a better check than, you know, guns in the streets.” -—

Maybe Linda doesn’t know that”ultimate” means “last,” as in last resort, as Cruz said.


31 posted on 04/16/2015 1:05:19 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: VinL

Yeah, we tried that once in 1776. How did that work out?


32 posted on 04/16/2015 1:05:56 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Isn't it funny that Socialists never want to share their own money?)
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To: VinL

Thank God, the Founders Gave Americans the Right of the 2nd when the Ballot Box has failed!


33 posted on 04/16/2015 1:06:03 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our Government ... Lead!!!!)
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To: VinL

A little scared are we now, Linda?


34 posted on 04/16/2015 1:06:20 PM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: VinL

Graham better watch how he runs his boy toy repository

He has his way in South Carolina with lighweight goofballs like Thomas Ravanel

Ted Cruz is no Thomas Ravanel


35 posted on 04/16/2015 1:07:41 PM PDT by wardaddy (Dems hate western civilization and GOP are cowards...We are headed to a dark place)
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To: VinL

F’in goofball. This is what we really, really need. Just like a Dem, deliberately misinterpret every statement out of any Republican so that the Rep is made to look silly so that the net effect is that any kind of constructive message never gets out. What a stupid saboteur.


36 posted on 04/16/2015 1:07:47 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder
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To: VinL

Show ‘Linda’ even a picture of a gun and I bet ‘she’ would get the vapors.


37 posted on 04/16/2015 1:07:51 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: jospehm20

38 posted on 04/16/2015 1:08:28 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: BenLurkin

Exactly right. “An informed electorate” includes those who have been informed to “A vote for me is a vote for free stuff!”

He’s an idiot.


39 posted on 04/16/2015 1:08:58 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Changing the name of a thing doesn't change the thing. A liberal by any other name...)
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To: VinL

Lindsay, nobody ever expected to be able to count on you when the going gets rough, so don’t get your panties in a twist.


40 posted on 04/16/2015 1:10:39 PM PDT by Boogieman
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