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If you need a water heater, consider buying one before April 16, 2015
ABC Action News ^ | 3-23-15 | Dan Schaffer

Posted on 04/14/2015 2:44:39 PM PDT by smokingfrog

First it was light bulbs, now Uncle Sam wants your water heater to be more efficient - and it could cost you a lot more money to comply with the new rules.

Angie's List founder, Angie Hicks, said new regulations will save money in the long run. “Your water heater is the second largest consumer of energy in your home right behind your heating and cooling system. So, any improvement in your water heaters efficiency is going to pay dividends in your monthly utility bills.”

But it will cost you more in the short term, if you need to buy a new one once the new rules take effect in April.

“It’s going to be bigger. It’s going to be taller. It’s going to take up more room. A lot of water heaters are installed in a very tight quarters. So, all of these things could be a major impact if you are replacing a water heater after April in 2015,” said water heater expert, Chip Cochran.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: doe; hotwater; hotwaterheater; naeca; regulation
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To: mad_as_he$$

I agree, the minerals are protective of the tank lining.


41 posted on 04/14/2015 3:14:59 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc OÂ’Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: BunnySlippers
100% only way to go...
42 posted on 04/14/2015 3:15:22 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: smokingfrog
When we got a new high tech Gas Furnace it came with a on demand water heater. One minor issue is that you have to run the faucet for a minute or two before you get hot water. Just a FYI.
43 posted on 04/14/2015 3:15:48 PM PDT by McGruff (Maybe my comments are too nuanced for some.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

>> Angie Hicks ... is all about supporting “Progressive” causes, and supports only Demo-rat party.

I steer clear of her and her “list” for that reason, alone.

The fact that it’s an overpriced “service” of questionable benefit is just one more reason.


44 posted on 04/14/2015 3:17:59 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Anode rods are another thing to watch. Once dissolved away they can’t protect the tank any more.


45 posted on 04/14/2015 3:18:12 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Washi

I’ve had one for 16 years (LPG), trouble free except for having to clean the little air filter by the pilot occasionally, but it was a bit undersized and didn’t quite heat the cold winter water as much as you’d like. Would pick the next larger BTU capacity the next time, or maybe a conventional tank heater with digital timer.


46 posted on 04/14/2015 3:18:25 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc OÂ’Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: mad_as_he$$

Well, our one case was in the country, and there was micro bits of ground shale settling in the bottom. Got a spin down agri style filter you can periodically flush out, and the water going in has no sediment. Mineral build up on heating- different subject. But point taken.

This whole thing generates nothing but revenue for crony capitalists, and higher consumer costs, and higher sales taxes. All good for govt. and their cronies.

Cold water shower— not a problem in summer anyway.


47 posted on 04/14/2015 3:19:38 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: smokingfrog

Just another squeeze on the middle class the liberal elites endlessly claim to be fighting for.


48 posted on 04/14/2015 3:23:14 PM PDT by Kenny500c
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To: 3boysdad

How about a laser water heater?

http://www.tanklesswaterheater.com/products4.html


49 posted on 04/14/2015 3:24:10 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Nervous Tick

I’ve worked on them. Fans go out, circuit boards go bad, igniters go bad etc. However if you are mechanically inclined you can fix it yourself pretty easily. One thing I can tell you is there is a sensor that brings the inducing fan motor on at the right time. If it goes bad the fan will not come on. I bypassed it on a friend of mines water heater but when you do that the fan will run constantly. However what my friend did was to cut the power on and off as needed while he ordered the part. He only put the power on for about an hour a day most days.


50 posted on 04/14/2015 3:27:25 PM PDT by BBell
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To: Nervous Tick; smokingfrog
Most people don't know that contractors also pay to be listed by her.
She makes good money both thru memberships , and contractor fees.
51 posted on 04/14/2015 3:30:13 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: McGruff
One minor issue is that you have to run the faucet for a minute or two before you get hot water. Just a FYI.

Also, don't let it freeze. The tankless heater doesn't have heat all the time to keep the water lines warm. After a freezeup when it was -20F outside I went to additional heat tape and more insulation on the walls of the heater cabinet.

52 posted on 04/14/2015 3:33:58 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc OÂ’Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: BBell

Thanks for the tips! I’m pretty good at fixing stuff in general, but if this thing goes out I’ll be breaking new ground.

Like most computerized appliances, this one seems to have lots of on-board diagnostics... hoping that will help.


53 posted on 04/14/2015 3:34:17 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

>> contractors also pay to be listed by her

Couldn’t possibly be any conflict of interest — or political favoritism — contaminating the process, of course.

‘Cause she’s progressive, and they know what’s best for you.


54 posted on 04/14/2015 3:39:45 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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To: smokingfrog
First it was light bulbs, now Uncle Sam wants your water heater to be more efficient - and it could cost you a lot more money to comply with the new rules.

It already did for me! Had to replace the water heater in a condo last month... The only ones available WOULD NOT FIT INTO THE SPACE! Wound up having to install a water heater half the size and 110vac rather than 220vac! The only alternative was to tear out a wall and install a larger door!

55 posted on 04/14/2015 3:39:51 PM PDT by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: smokingfrog
First it was light bulbs, now Uncle Sam wants your water heater to be more efficient - and it could cost you a lot more money to comply with the new rules.

It already did for me! Had to replace the water heater in a condo last month... The only ones available WOULD NOT FIT INTO THE SPACE! Wound up having to install a water heater half the size and 110vac rather than 220vac! The only alternative was to tear out a wall and install a larger door!

56 posted on 04/14/2015 3:39:52 PM PDT by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: John S Mosby
This is for residential and commercial water heaters 55 gals. and up.

Whew...I hope. We have a standard 50 gal.

57 posted on 04/14/2015 3:39:58 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (It ain't a "hashtag"....it's a damn pound sign. ###)
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To: smokingfrog

Ugh!

If I had the cash, I’d come up with a piece-by-piece system with instructions and sell a part at a time.
Build your own water heater systems. Kinda like an AR15.
One part breaks, just replace that part. Wouldn’t need to replace the whole system.


58 posted on 04/14/2015 3:42:18 PM PDT by RandallFlagg ("I fell into a hundred foot ravine" -Marcus Luttrell)
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To: RightOnTheBorder
the only option space wise is a Tankless heater.

Wifey and I have visited two different couples that had those...making four people taking their morning showers within a relatively short period of time; both times we experienced a lack of "hot" - regardless of the claims.

59 posted on 04/14/2015 3:42:30 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (It ain't a "hashtag"....it's a damn pound sign. ###)
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To: ExSES
The only ones available WOULD NOT FIT INTO THE SPACE!

This will happen millions of times over and the feds will say: 'Tough beans chump, it's for the greater good'.

110vac here would take all winter to get the water up to usable temp.

60 posted on 04/14/2015 3:44:12 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc OÂ’Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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