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Posted on 04/11/2015 6:56:52 AM PDT by Kaslin
Normally, I would not even think about the concept of digging into my past studies in sociology when writing anything for the political arena, but when it comes to social issues, focusing purely on politics can definitely do everyone a disservice. When it comes to the latest round of gay rights activists trying to push their agenda on the masses, I decided it was time to drag out the sociology at least a little. Erick Erickson observations here on the gay rights movement pushing their agenda too hard when it comes to religion were spot on. However, examining just the legal and religious principles in play isn't quite enough.
Beyond the gay rights movement going too far by suggesting that it is time to start dictating religious doctrine, there is another issue that they have inadvertently put precariously close to the table in this debate. The primary reason why the gay rights movement has enjoyed the success that it has up until now is that it has been very careful to place the private side of the issue behind a wall. Messaging has been almost exclusively about treating all people equally, and the activists have generally been very careful to keep the sex lives of gays and bisexuals out of the dialogue. It was a brilliant choice, because it's fair to assume that many Americans would have negative visceral responses to seeing and hearing about those activities on a regular basis.
It has been a bizarre balancing act that involves a group of people defining themselves by their sexual proclivities, while simultaneously keeping the actual sex acts out of view. Now that the movement is trying to force changes in religious doctrine to find their lifestyle acceptable, that balancing act is going to be more difficult to maintain. The bottom line is that religions consider gay sex – sodomy, if you prefer – a sin. The wall that the gay rights movement built to hide what they do in bed from the public view will need to come down at least a little to win this battle.
From a sociological standpoint, that will be opening another can of worms for gay activists. We can easily see why just by looking at popular culture. While there are many gay characters in television and film now, the depiction of gay sex outside of the adult film industry remains a rarity, and for good reason. Even people that are supportive of gay rights would not necessarily want to see what the people they support do in bed. Call it the “ick” factor if you like, but it is a simple fact of life that gay activists have avoided facing so far. We simply haven't reached a point in our culture where homosexual behavior can be completely “normalized,” and it's not just religious doctrine standing in the way.
The entertainment industry just recently showed us this, in the form of the HBO series “Looking,” which followed the social lives of a group of gay men in San Francisco. Due to falling ratings, HBO canceled it. While critics may have battled back and forth about the quality of the show in general, the most likely reason why the show did not take off had nothing to do with production values. The general public simply wasn't interested in delving into the personal lives of gay men. The irony is that the gay rights movement itself might have had a hand in that, because it has been so careful to keep the “nuts and bolts” of the gay lifestyle out of the spotlight.
Now, it will probably get sunlight that they do not want, because instead of just having to battle the “evil Christian bigots,” they may also see losses in support elsewhere. It was fine and even fashionable to support gay rights when one didn't have to think about anyone actually engaging in gay sex. No one should be surprised if we end up seeing some people admit to at least a little revulsion toward gays, assuming that the dialogue truly does turn to the actual sins involved. Arguably, the ball is in the court of religious leaders now. The question is, are they willing to speak explicitly about sin for the sake of protecting religious liberty?
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This will also happen as they try to indoctrinate the youth in school. All of the wonderful things about this lifestyle need to be brought up (health, effect on children, psychological etc). They have been able to control the debate for to long.
Sorry, it is and will always be gross. It is unnatural. Mens butts and plastic toy attractions are a mental disorder.
Ick factor cannot be helped - most of us were BORN THAT WAY.
There is nothing more perverted and less natural than gay sex.
Some years ago Seattle had a problem with a yahoo showing hard core porn on his public access TV show, even though there was considerable public protest. I had never seen the show, but one night I was watching a variety show on that channel and fell asleep only to wake up about 2 a.m. to the sight of one man buggering another man. I must admit that it was one of the most clarifying moments of my life, as the degeneracy, perversion, vileness and overall evil of homosexual acts came into razor sharp focus. Most casual defenders of the homofascists either don’t know or would prefer not to know what perverts actually do to each other. Trust me, it’s not pretty.
Pictures of Brucie Jenner is enuff “ick factor” for me.
What they do “in bed” is the least of it. What they do in their nightclubs and in public bathrooms tells any sane person there’s nothing normal or positive about homosexuality.
OK. I thought you put hetero when you meant homo. Now I understand your comment about ick.
In high school one of the cheerleaders approached a well known gay guy to see if she could entice him by being overtly seductive, but it didn’t work. In fact, it had the opposite effect — it seemed to cripple him for he was spotted walking away with a limp.
Oh, I don’t know...how do you get a positive reaction from the public to two guys deep kissing or performing oral sex on each other or doing anal sex? Not just talking about it, but actual “in your face” performing of the deeds.
Normal people are revolted and sickened when forced to actually see male homosexuals satisfying their carnal lusts. [There doesn’t seem to be a similar revulsion for female homosexuals, but there certainly is for male on male sex.]
Well, they don't. The anus is meant for expelling, not entering. Unless you need an enema.
And those are the facts, jack.
What is the major difference between a hetero and a homo once you remove sex out of the equation?
They are not satisfied with being tolerated while they themselves are intolerant. They want to be treated like they are special or somehow unique.
In my quilting guild we have an “enlightened” liberal woman. The discussion went to homosexuality. She said we shouldn’t criticize as “they were born that way”.
I reminded her that people like Jeffrey Daumer, Gacy, Bundy, etc., were “born that way”, too. Their siblings were normal and their families were normal. Should we recognize and honor their disgusting actions?
I got no response.
Good for you. This is how the war is won.
That joke has been around forever! Still funny, although the P.C. Police would tase you for telling it today.
I didn’t even know that “gay” sex existed.
When i was 10 y/o my brother told me about homos and what they do. “I said noway you are just making that up!”
Yes I know, that’s the reason I only gave the punch line. ;)
About ten years ago; some sicko sodomites hacked FR early in the day and posted some pictures I wish I hadn’t seen. Mods must have been asleep, because they stayed there for a couple of hours. ‘Ick’ doesn’t even come close to the revulsion I was feeling...
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