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California Officially Bans Hunters From Using Lead Bullets
The Daily Caller ^ | 9:21 PM 04/09/2015 | The Daily Caller

Posted on 04/11/2015 3:17:10 AM PDT by WhiskeyX

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To: 9YearLurker

What kind of ammunition will not kill the carrion eating condors?


21 posted on 04/11/2015 4:27:54 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX

Environmentalists, on the other hand, are saying these regulations will save California Condors and Golden Eagles from getting lead poisoning.

Huh? Isn’t it against the law to hunt either one of those species? We know both of these species are for the most part scavengers and feed on dead animals. Most hunters I know don’t go out in the field, shoot, and just leave their kills all over the place. Stupid lefties. The only lead poisoning we need to worry about is in these people’s brains!


22 posted on 04/11/2015 4:28:29 AM PDT by dowcaet
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To: WhiskeyX

I’m thinking something like spitballs on steroids.


23 posted on 04/11/2015 4:28:38 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: dowcaet

I imagine it’s like loons in the Northeast, where they’ve found the lead in the carcasses of the birds.


24 posted on 04/11/2015 4:29:53 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: WhiskeyX

Unintended consequence: M855A2 amo and the like come into high demand, enough to make it viable on the civilian market.


25 posted on 04/11/2015 4:41:42 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: WhiskeyX

“A bill that designated “lead-free” hunting zones was signed into law by former Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger in 2007. By 2008, California hunters could not use ammunition containing more than one percent lead by weight within range of California condors.”

Vote for Arnold! Because he can win!


26 posted on 04/11/2015 4:42:34 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: WhiskeyX

So reload with stainless steel shot and bullets turn your own calibre super bore your rifles problem solved

they are creating there own problems these environmentalist wacko’s


27 posted on 04/11/2015 4:49:26 AM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (Eee eee eee Oooh ooh ooh .....{ Curious George } to the man in the yellow hat !)
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To: WhiskeyX

Are not non-led bullets “armor piercing” and thus “cop killers?”


28 posted on 04/11/2015 4:50:28 AM PDT by arthurus (it's true!)
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To: WhiskeyX
Even if lead may be found in the carcasses of animals that have been shot and then injested by these eagles and condors, is it in levels that actually cause harm or just in the parts per billion range? Lead is not particularly soluable and lead poisoning is usually as a result of years of exposure. Are there actual studies of eagle carcasses that confirm their death due to lead poisoning or with lead levels at particularly high levels or is this just some environmentalist's wet dream?

I am wary of these environmental scare studies. Remember when Rachel Carson claimed that DDT was causing bird deaths and her "studies" led to a complete ban of DDT? Turns out she had faked her data, yet the DDT ban stayed in place leading to the death of millions due to malaria as DDT was the best and cheapest way to kill malaria carrying mosquitoes.

29 posted on 04/11/2015 4:56:03 AM PDT by The Great RJ (Pants up...Don't loot!)
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To: ronnie raygun

> Lead can cause brain damage in animals shot by lead bullets

And a liberal would pause for a sec and say, “hey”! on that one


30 posted on 04/11/2015 4:57:55 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: fatnotlazy

I would like to see Bixby Bridge and the redwoods one last time.


31 posted on 04/11/2015 5:02:33 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: WhiskeyX

“The federal government is preventing companies from making non-lead bullets”

Barnes has been manufacturing solid copper bullets for many years and still is.


32 posted on 04/11/2015 5:03:39 AM PDT by Dusty Road (")
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To: WhiskeyX

There are solid copper hollow point bullets and work very well as a hunting bullet. However, they cost about twice as much as jacketed lead bullets.


33 posted on 04/11/2015 5:07:24 AM PDT by MCF (If my home can't be my Castle, then it will be my Alamo.)
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To: The Great RJ

A couple of typical sources:

http://www.dfg.ca.gov/wildlife/nongame/t_e_spp/bald_eagle/

http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/campaigns/get_the_lead_out/


34 posted on 04/11/2015 5:09:30 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: ImNotLying

Alternatives to lead will likely destroy gun barrels and they know it.


35 posted on 04/11/2015 5:19:29 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks ("If he were working for the other side, what would he be doing differently ?")
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To: WhiskeyX

We spend tons of money trying to keep an animal alive that just wasn’t meant to be living in this day and age. The days of large carcass’s laying around from predator kill’s is long gone. Smaller predators and scavengers clean a recent kill to the bone leaving little if nothing for the Condor. The state takes road kill out to the nesting area’s, hunters leave the remains of their game in the field. There’s more food available than they need and still can’t increase the population to a sustainable level. They can no longer compete with other scavengers. If the only way for this bird to survive is through man’s influence then it’s time to let it go and stop wasting money.


36 posted on 04/11/2015 5:26:21 AM PDT by Dusty Road (")
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To: MCF

“There are solid copper hollow point bullets and work very well as a hunting bullet. However, they cost about twice as much as jacketed lead bullets.”

You think Barnes might have padded a few pockets to see this ban go through?


37 posted on 04/11/2015 5:29:15 AM PDT by Dusty Road (")
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To: lowbridge
Vote for Arnold! Because he can win!

I recall being amazed at how often that slogan showed up on this board during the gubernatorial recall campaign back in 2003. But you can't blame me, because I voted for Tom McClintock.

38 posted on 04/11/2015 5:29:51 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: WhiskeyX

Maybe it is time for all CA hunters to take a year off and not buy licenses, permits, merchandise, lodging and all of the other things that go into a hunting trip. Maybe the pols will see and hear the loss of revenue from this group.


39 posted on 04/11/2015 5:32:30 AM PDT by Skybird
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To: Dusty Road

I also suspect the water source and environment has allot to do with high lead level’s. We’re talking gold and silver country and high amounts of lead is found also. I’ll bet every animal in the area shows higher than normal lead levels. I seriously doubt the studies.


40 posted on 04/11/2015 5:33:01 AM PDT by Dusty Road (")
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