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Climatologists to physicists: your planet needs you
Nature ^ | 4/7/15 | Quirin Schiermeier

Posted on 04/08/2015 3:32:46 PM PDT by LibWhacker

Climate scientists highlight cloud mysteries in a bid to compete with astronomy and cosmology.

Clouds are key to understanding climate change, but more-realistic models of their formation are needed.

I wonder which junk science genius came up with that (that random blobs of water vapor floating around in the atmosphere are the key to understanding). And in light of the claims of this article, how did he ever convince himself that it was true, given that he was incapable of doing the science himself? And why should we believe him? In an earlier time, he would've no doubt claimed it was random blobs of phlogiston. This whole article is an admission that climatologists have no clue how to do real science. It's akin to astrologers appealing to mathematicians to prove that astrology is true, or alchemists appealing to chemists to prove alchemy is true, etc. The whole article is full of such revelations. --LibWhacker

Climate science needs more mathematicians and physicists. So say prominent climatologists who are trying to spark enthusiasm for their field in budding researchers who might otherwise choose astrophysics or cosmology. Talented physical scientists are needed to help resolve mysteries that are crucial to modelling the climate — and, potentially, saving the planet — the group says, such as the ways in which clouds are formed.

There is a misconception that the major challenges in physical climate science are settled. “That’s absolutely not true,” says Sandrine Bony, a climate researcher at the Laboratory of Dynamic Meteorology in Paris. “In fact, essential physical aspects of climate change are poorly understood.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nature.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: academicbias; climatechange; climatologists; cookedthebooks; criminalconspiracy; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; mathematicians; physicists
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To: pfflier
Saw this rather insightful comment on a freeper's home page...

"The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present – and is gravely to be regarded. Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite. "

Dwight D Eisenhower - and you're right - that part's never quoted.

21 posted on 04/08/2015 6:29:15 PM PDT by GOPJ ("A bird doesn't sing because it has an answer, it sings because it has a song."- Joan Walsh not M.A.)
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To: Da Coyote; All

“In fact, essential physical aspects of climate change are poorly understood.”

Exactly why all the hype about “climate change” is just that, hype.

We do not even know what we do not know.

But we do know that there are many important things that we do not know.

Cannot do climate models and predictions without knowing all of the important things and how they interact.


22 posted on 04/08/2015 6:57:36 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: Gen-X-Dad

The Chilling Stars - I think that is the explanation that bothers warmers the most.


23 posted on 04/08/2015 7:07:02 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Not deniable = Not falsifiable = Not science = Not even wrong.)
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To: justa-hairyape

If they thought about it they might realize that a melting Arctic Ocean would cause another glacial advance.


24 posted on 04/08/2015 7:13:09 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Not deniable = Not falsifiable = Not science = Not even wrong.)
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To: LibWhacker

My favorite sentence in this farcical analysis:

“Although climate scientists agree on the basics — for example, climate change is primarily the result of human activity — large uncertainties persist in ‘climate sensitivity’, the increase in average global temperature caused by a given rise in the concentration of carbon dioxide.”

Translation: “We don’t really know how it’s happening - but we’re absolutely sure who’s responsible (and it’s *you*).


25 posted on 04/08/2015 7:47:38 PM PDT by Stosh
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To: LibWhacker; GeronL

The warmunists need some patsies.


26 posted on 04/08/2015 8:00:33 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Funny how Hollywood's 'No Nukes' crowd has been silent during Obama's Iranian nuclear negotiations.)
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To: a fool in paradise

They’re just wearing pasties??


27 posted on 04/08/2015 8:21:49 PM PDT by GeronL (CLEARLY CRUZ 2016)
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To: eyeamok
Climatology is a science?? Kinda like Lesbian Dance Theory is a sport...

Great line... tagable.

28 posted on 04/08/2015 8:51:10 PM PDT by GOPJ (Climatology is a science?? Kinda like Lesbian Dance Theory is a sport... freeper eyeamok)
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To: Mike Darancette

More water for the water planet. Problem is the freezing point stays relatively constant. At least in the physical world. In lala Progresso land, nothing stays constant. So warmer air will always hold more water until someone tells them there is a drought in California.


29 posted on 04/08/2015 9:22:45 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Mike Darancette

The Chilling Stars - I think that is the explanation that bothers warmers the most.


That is because the astrophysicists and the geologists they are working with have actually backed up the theory with measurable evidence and created experiments to test key parts of the theory (cosmic ray cloud seeding) that have worked. Warmers hate real science, not enough doom and gloom to take control of an industrial base if it comes down to the Earth being protected by the Sun from space radiation coming from the Milky Way. Heck, how can you regulate cow farts and SUVs if it is a cosmic problem and not man made?


30 posted on 04/12/2015 12:16:00 AM PDT by Gen-X-Dad
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