Posted on 04/03/2015 4:27:24 AM PDT by concernedcitizen76
OKLAHOMA CITY — Oklahoma would stop issuing marriage licenses under legislation passed Tuesday afternoon by the Oklahoma House of Representatives.
House Bill 1125, by Rep. Todd Russ, R-Cordell, would instead require those officiating marriage ceremonies to file after-the-fact “certificates of marriage” with court clerks’ offices. Alternatively, couples could file affidavits of common law marriage.
Russ said his bill is intended to “protect” county court clerks who do not want to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples.
“This takes them out of the trap,” he said.
(Excerpt) Read more at tulsaworld.com ...
Because they have to try to divert Obama’s “Munich” agreement that will begin all out war in the middle east!
Yes, but w/o govt backing them up - they haven’t got much of a fight.
That benefit really doesn't have anything to do with marriage. No one can FORCE anyone to testify.
The solution is simple. You show up for court, place you hand on the Bible as instructed, and when you're asked "Do you solemnly swear to tell the truth?", you look them straight in the eye and say - "No, your Honor, I do not."..and don't say anything else.
What's he going to do? Have you arrested? One of the FIRST things they tell you when your arrested is you have a right to remain silent.
Wouldn't that be a legalistic mess of their own making? LOL! Arresting you for exercising the right they're legally obligated to notify you that you have!
The right to free speech includes the right not to speak.
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DiogenesLamp - Freedom of speech PING.
This shouldn’t impact many restrictions that states put on marriages. Whether it’s blood tests, prohibiting sibling or first cousin marriage or the like.
It simply transfers the validation (and paperwork) requirement to the officiant, who has to personally certify that such checks were conducted and the marriage doesn’t violate state law.
I like that a lot. Let the state divest itself of that requirement, risk and liability, and make the officiants assume them. From both a civil and criminal perspective.
Divorce can be handled as a matter of contract law.
Social Security shouldn’t exist.
Very interesting thought. It makes sense for a secular government and I bet it's how it worked in Sodom.
I’ve read, years ago, that local governments started issuing marriage licenses as a revenue gathering measure. Before that, people simply made a declaration of taking a wife, or had a preacher marry them and the marriage entered into church records.
I don’t think there was ever a declaration of two same sex people getting “married or declaring they were now “married”.
Except for NERO who expanded the limits of perversity.
“I think this is a move in the right direction. The state shouldn’t be in the marriage business...”
Exactly! And a lot of other “licenses” that states have gotten into over the years should be done away with as well like barbers, nail salons, florists, the list is endless. But they have gotten used to the “license fees,” so that’s the real issue. Along with these needless licenses, the state boards that were created to “manage the licenses” need to be disbanded. But again, the bureaucratic staffs being put on the street will be an issue.
“Guess you don’t need a blood test anymore?”
And today with unmarried couples routinely having sexual relations, it probably isn’t an effective tool for disease prevention anyway. Particularly in the “Black Community” where female virginity is described as any girl under the age of twelve.
YES.
Because a civil union is NOT a marriage.
Marriage needs to go back to the churches where it belongs. The government has no business in any pledge between two people and God - period.
Honestly? Timing.
Indiana was the first to enact RFRA and sign it (with R leadership) after the wave of court victories imposing homosexual “marriage” recognition.
Since it’s become so watered down, I’d say just forget about state-sanctioned marriages altogether. If you want a contract, make a contract and have it notarized..
I’d be surprised if OK does this, for it will cost its treasury money.
Civil Marriage has been the bedrock of civilization for thousands of years.
The leftists will be applauding Oklahoma, the first step toward their dream of destroying it.
very wrong
Even in the Plymouth Colony, you know the Puritans, marriage was a wholly civil affair and not a religious one.
The destruction of the institution of marriage is their main goal
Goal achieved
And desperately clinging to the state is producing win after win. LOL
I think that’s right.... I have a friend who had a business doing the blood tests in Oklahoma County. His office was a few doors down from where the marriage license office was. I remember when the change in the law put him out of business.....
That isn't true, Greece, Rome, Europe, all had marriage law, whether from the state or the state church.
Licenses go back about 800 years and they are just an extension of other forms of notice, Thomas Jefferson was married with a license, George Washington paid for his nephew's license.
There have always been rules to what makes a legal marriage, in all cultures and there always will be, especially in America and civilization.
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