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Pakistan to buy eight submarines from China
The Indian Express ^ | April 2, 2015 | Sushant Singh

Posted on 04/01/2015 7:04:40 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

Pakistan government has approved the purchase of eight submarines from China, as per an “in principle” decision conveyed during a hearing of the Pakistan National Assembly’s Standing Committee on Defence.

Pakistan has been negotiating the purchase of six submarines – now increased to eight — from China since 2011.

Pakistan Navy currently operates five French submarines: three Agosta 90B submarines purchased in the 1990s and two Agosta 70 submarines of late 1970s vintage. It also has three MG110 miniature submarines.

After the recent accidents, the number of active duty submarines in Indian Navy is now down to 13 diesel-electric submarines and the nuclear-powered INS Chakra.

Although Pakistan navy officers neither gave the cost of the deal nor disclosed the types of submarines being procured from China, reports suggest that Beijing is likely to offer Yuan-class Type-041 diesel-electric submarines in a $4bn-$5bn deal. As per IHS Jane’s Fighting Ships, the Type 041 ‘Yuan’ class is a diesel electric attack submarine (SSK), potentially with Stirling air independent propulsion, that is armed with YJ-2 (YJ-82) anti-ship missiles and a combination of Yu-4 (SAET-50) passive homing and Yu-3 (SET-65E) active/passive homing torpedoes.

At $4bn-$5bn, this deal is likely to be China’s biggest ever arms sale, much bigger than the deal for 50 JF-17 fighter jets bought by Pakistan in 2010 for around $1bn. As per the latest SIPRI report, Pakistan bought more than 40 per cent of China’s arms exports during the past five years, making it China’s top arms importer.

Pakistan had earlier tried to purchase three Type 214 diesel-electric submarines from Germany but the deal could not be finalized as Islamabad deemed them to be too expensive. Pakistan also held negotiations with France for acquiring Scorpène-class submarines but French refused to sell them to Pakistan. The Agosta submarine scandal of 1994 with its ongoing corruption charges and death of 11 French engineers in Karachi in a terror attack in 2002 contributed to the French refusal.

China is likely to offer a long-term loan to Pakistan, possibly at a low interest rate, to cover the cost of this new deal.

Iskander Rehman, a non-resident Fellow in the South Asia Programme at the Atlantic Council in Washington DC who authored the report ‘Murky Waters: Naval Nuclear Dynamics in the Indian Ocean’ believes that this purchase will have a significant impact on the sub-continental naval equation. “Unlike India, Pakistan does not seek so much to project naval power as to to deny access to its principal maritime approaches. The addition of another eight diesel-electric submarines to the Pakistani fleet will render Indian naval operations along the Makran coastline far more challenging in times of conflict,” Rehman says.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; pakistan; ssk; submarine

1 posted on 04/01/2015 7:04:40 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

So, let me guess. We borrow more money from China so we can give it to Pakistan so they can turn around and buy Chinese subs....gotta love our govt. Sarc


2 posted on 04/01/2015 7:10:19 PM PDT by mikefive (RLTW)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

So how does Pakistan pay back the loan to the Chi-Comms?


3 posted on 04/01/2015 7:12:10 PM PDT by StormEye
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Pakistan alliance against India.

China has been testing out the Indian Ocena a lot lately.


4 posted on 04/01/2015 7:25:22 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: StormEye

By keeping India bleeding-its worked for over 50 years now


5 posted on 04/01/2015 7:42:33 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: mikefive

They can buy a lot of cool stuff with US foreign aid and base rental fees.


6 posted on 04/01/2015 8:18:20 PM PDT by Rockpile
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Thank you to be upping the parascope, come again....


7 posted on 04/01/2015 9:17:47 PM PDT by DanielRedfoot (Creepy Ass Cracker)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Pakistan is a poor country, it has widespread poverty and can’t fund decent health & drinking water for most of its population. It’s military would lose a war with India, even if it used the A-bombs it has.

Buying more submarines is useless vanity and Red China is no real friend to Pakistan, China just wants to scare India a bit. Taking on debt for water toys is a dumb move for Pakistan.


8 posted on 04/01/2015 9:36:21 PM PDT by RicocheT (us)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

There’s a storm coming......

The Islamic nations now know they can unite their armies and raise them up together to whatever end they might choose.

It won’t be long before the entire EU nations have more than a share of upheaval....every things ‘starting’ to rock and roll over there....going to get worse before better.

Then the world will be looking for someone, anyone, to have all the answers.


9 posted on 04/01/2015 9:41:32 PM PDT by caww
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To: RicocheT

Pakistan wouldn’t be existing today if it wasn’t for Chinese political, economic and military aid.

The 1st submarine kill after the 2nd World War was by a Pakistani sub, so their subs aren’t exactly going to be useless.


10 posted on 04/02/2015 12:34:25 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I hope this helps minds concentrate in the Indian Fin Min.


11 posted on 04/02/2015 12:46:12 AM PDT by IndianChief
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To: RicocheT

Pakistan isn’t sane.


12 posted on 04/02/2015 3:32:11 AM PDT by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Pakistan also held negotiations with France for acquiring Scorpène-class submarines but French refused to sell them to Pakistan.

Does Pakistan now have a case of discrimination against France in world court? ;-)

13 posted on 04/02/2015 10:40:01 AM PDT by varon (Para bellum)
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To: IndianChief

Not putting too many hopes on that happening. The Indian bureaucracy is a messy labyrinth even for Modi and Co., which is probably why the new Defence Minister seems to be taking his time on the more expansive commercial contracts.


14 posted on 04/05/2015 5:16:26 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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