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SciCheck: Cruz on the global cooling myth and how he's like Galileo
Philly.com ^

Posted on 03/30/2015 12:51:30 PM PDT by Phillyred

Sen. Ted Cruz cited a 1975 Newsweek article on “global cooling” to question the evidence of global warming, and in the process made several incorrect and unsubstantiated claims.

The Newsweek story, which did warn of a “cooling world,” has been criticized and largely debunked — by its own author. Cruz’s claim that “advocates of global cooling suddenly shifted to global warming” ignores the fact that there was no scientific consensus in the 1970s about global cooling. Cruz said that “satellite data demonstrate that there has been no significant warming whatsoever for 17 years.” This is misleading. Though the trend line in recent years has been relatively flat, Cruz cherry-picks a particularly warm year (1998) to deny the clear longer-term warming trend. There have now been 360 consecutive months when the global temperature was above the 20th century average. Cruz compared “global warming alarmists” to “flat-Earthers” and himself to Galileo, saying “this heretic named Galileo was branded a denier” for insisting the Earth was round. This is wrong. Galileo’s troubles with the church stemmed from his belief that the Earth orbits the Sun. The fact that the planet is round was accepted before Galileo was born. In an interview with the Texas Tribune (at the 14:24 mark), Cruz, who recently announced his candidacy for president, told reporter Jay Root that the 1975 global cooling story in Newsweek is evidence that “alarmists” simply want the government to control the energy sector.

Cruz, March 24: I read this morning a Newsweek article from the 1970s talking about global cooling. And it

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2016election; climateliars; cruz; election2016; globalcooling; globalwarming; tedcruz; texas
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To: Phillyred

When did science become a democracy?


21 posted on 03/30/2015 1:12:48 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarca only ones we can gesm or criticism...or do.)
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To: Phillyred

Consensus has not and has never been evidence.


22 posted on 03/30/2015 1:22:17 PM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: Starstruck

I could prove there is no such thing as global warming. Take away all the grant money.


23 posted on 03/30/2015 1:24:01 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Islam is the military wing of the Communist party.)
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To: txhurl

Ha!

I vote they have to report from atop the Leaning Tower of Pisa...after we remove a few keystones.


24 posted on 03/30/2015 1:25:09 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: MrB
I think it is a mental illness similar ro Messianic complex. They don't believe in a God at all. None of them do. They think mankind is the key to the design and destruction of the world. Most I talk to are so shallow they end up in rage because they can't stand the truth. The rage covers their ignorance.
25 posted on 03/30/2015 1:26:43 PM PDT by iowacornman (Speak out with courage!!)
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To: Phillyred

ignores the fact that there was no scientific consensus in the 1970s about global cooling.


Sure put it was substantially the same people.


26 posted on 03/30/2015 1:27:44 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Phillyred
Though the trend line in recent years has been relatively flat, Cruz cherry-picks a particularly warm year (1998) to deny the clear longer-term warming trend. There have now been 360 consecutive months when the global temperature was above the 20th century average.

Being "above the average" doesn't mean anything, because just like you accused Cruz of cherry-picking, you can cherry-pick the time window for calculating an average. If you were to start with temperatures back when Greenland was actually green, where would we be now in comparison to the average?

The other problem is the accuracy of the data used to compute the "20th century average" is suspect. It's subject to measurement errors and even siting errors. The satellite data provided our first opportunity to accurately measure it, free of siting bias. Not concidentally, that was when the temperature record leveled out.

The real question is: what's the trend? Is it up, or is it down? It's currently flat, contrary to nearly all of the models that predicted a significant rise under the current conditions. When climate researchers admit this and modify their models to account for it, then I might be interested in the results.

BTW, the infamous "hockey stick" model was a classic example of how models take on a life of their own. A skeptical engineer tweaked the input data to see how the model responded. He found that no matter how he changed the data, it always generated the "hockey stick". He even fed it random data, and got the "hockey stick".

This should have been enough reason for the entire scientific community to discard the model, and regard the author as incompetent (at best) or a fraud.

27 posted on 03/30/2015 1:27:50 PM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: iowacornman

There is nothing else in reality other than Christianity and Humanism.

The latter began with the lie “you will be as gods”.

All else, including “liberalism”, follows.


28 posted on 03/30/2015 1:28:04 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: BerryDingle

An oxymoron they’re too stupid to recognize...


29 posted on 03/30/2015 1:28:55 PM PDT by DB
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To: Pontiac
Averages are rarely a statistically significant factor in science.

You would think that someone writing about science would use mean or median 20th century temperature.

Ummm, "mean" and "average" are the same thing. :-)

But, otherwise I agree with you -- I just posted something similar.

But on another note I suppose he would want to totally ignore 18th century which quite cold.

Using the 18th century data (assuming we could get accurate data) would lower both the mean and the median. But, if you were to go all the way back to when Greenland was green (and the climate was much warmer), that might raise them.

30 posted on 03/30/2015 1:32:06 PM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: rightwingcrazy; Phillyred
"There have now been 360 consecutive months when the global temperature was above the 20th century average."

360 months = 30 years. 1200 months = 100 years = 20th century.

Half of the 20th century temps were above average. Half were below average. That's what "average" means.

I think we can figure out the relative significance of this.

31 posted on 03/30/2015 1:32:23 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("The LORD God placed the man in the Garden of Eden to tend and watch over it." - Genesis 2:15)
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To: Phillyred

Haha... no consensus...haha in 1970s....haha. ... in 50 years when this global warming crap is discredited, they will be saying there was no consensus over that in 2000. It really is fish in a barrell, but the left still controls the narrative.


32 posted on 03/30/2015 1:33:35 PM PDT by BRL
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Half of the 20th century temps were above average. Half were below average. That's what "average" means.

No, that's a median.

Here's an example using this series of numbers: 1,2,3,4,5,100,101.

The median is 4.
The mean/average is the sum (216) divided by 7 = 30.86.

33 posted on 03/30/2015 1:37:16 PM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: Phillyred
Cruz said that “satellite data demonstrate that there has been no significant warming whatsoever for 17 years.” This is misleading. Though the trend line in recent years has been relatively flat, Cruz cherry-picks a particularly warm year (1998) to deny the clear longer-term warming trend.

How is that "cherry picking"?

Cruz said there is no warming for the last 17 years and then he specifically points to those 17 years in the data.

34 posted on 03/30/2015 1:44:38 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: justlurking
Not to be to-o-o-o picky, but I think there are three kinds of averages: mean, median, and mode. So if we agree that when "half are above, half are below" it's the "median", it's still a type of average.

Dictionary.com (LINK) defines "mean" as an average, and then says, "Two other common forms of averages are the median and mode."

Though a lot of people do use "average" to mean "arithmetic mean" only.

35 posted on 03/30/2015 1:46:02 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Point of persnickety.)
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To: PROCON

Exactly! Think of how many government grants were produced as a result of the “hockey stick” graph — fraudulently produced from manufactured data. Had there been no fraudulent dramatic upswing in temperatures, there would have been no need for more research.


36 posted on 03/30/2015 1:46:33 PM PDT by zipper (In their heart of hearts, all Democrats are communists)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Not to be to-o-o-o picky, but I think there are three kinds of averages: mean, median, and mode.

As a colloquial word, average has been overloaded to mean a lot of things. In the scientific, statistical, and mathematical world, it's the arithmetic mean.

Even your own citation says that "average is a synonym for arithmetic mean".

37 posted on 03/30/2015 1:52:40 PM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: zipper
Think of how many government grants were produced as a result of the “hockey stick” graph — fraudulently produced from manufactured data.

Actually, see my earlier posting. The hockey-stick graph was produced with an incorrect or fraudulent model.

It didn't matter what data you put into it: it still generated a hockey stick. Even random data generated that result.

38 posted on 03/30/2015 1:54:24 PM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: justlurking
Great, Great, Great, Great, Great.

Average Great! But really it's just Median. :oP

39 posted on 03/30/2015 1:56:05 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Point of persnickety.)
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To: rightwingcrazy

My question that usually stumps these idiots is “what’s normal?”

Of course, most of these morons don’t even understand Earth’s orbit, sun spot activity, etc.

I remember in the 5th grade the “scientific consensus” was that Pluto was a plant. How did that work out? lol


40 posted on 03/30/2015 1:59:52 PM PDT by Fledermaus (The GOP is dead to me! McConnell and Boehner can drop dead!!)
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