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Andreas Lubitz: Germanwings flight's last minutes revealed in chilling black box transcript
Mirror ^ | March 29, 2015

Posted on 03/29/2015 5:14:25 AM PDT by KeyLargo

Andreas Lubitz: Germanwings flight's last minutes revealed in chilling black box transcript

29 March 2015 By Alex Wellman

Patrick Sondheimer is heard screaming to his co-pilot "Open the goddam door" as passengers scream in the background

The dramatic last moments of the doomed Germanwings flight have been revealed in a chilling transcript of the black box recording that shows the captain screaming at Andreas Lubitz “Open the goddam door”.

Patrick Sondheimer, pilot of the traffic plane, is heard frantically pleading with the killer to let him into the cockpit, just seconds before crashing into the Alps.

BEA Germanwings CVR

Evidence: The Cockpit Voice Recorder of the Germanwings plane has shown the terrifying last moments of the flight

The recording is said to begin normally, with the captain apologizing to passengers for an almost 30 minute delay in Barcelona.

He then tells them he expects the flight to make up the lost time mid-flight to Dusseldorf.

Andreas Lubitz Germanwings: Live updates on horror French Alps crash

Revealed in the German newspaper Bild, the recordings then show the tragic captain chatting with Lubitz for the next 20 minutes.

According to the paper, the killer co-pilot then tells Mr Sondheimer he can go to the toilet at any time – noting that he had not relieved himself at the airport in Barcelona.

A short while later, 10.27am, the plane has reached its cruising altitude of 38,000ft and the captain tells Lubitz to prepare for the landing.

According to investigators, the co-pilot’s responses are said to be “laconic”, with the 27-year-old using phrase such as “hopefully” and “we’ll see”.

Germanwings killer Andreas Lubitz 'trawled internet for suicide and sexual perversion websites'

In one chilling exchange, Lubitz tells the pilot “You can go now”

(Excerpt) Read more at mirror.co.uk ...


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To: KeyLargo

How come that black box is red and round?


121 posted on 03/30/2015 6:47:10 AM PDT by MNDude
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To: KeyLargo

I’m not surprised. He’s got that Bradley Manning appearance about him.


122 posted on 03/30/2015 7:03:13 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: MNDude

“How come that black box is red and round?”

“All the better to see you with.”

‘The Big Bad Wolf’

Secrets of the Bright Orange ‘Black Box’
By
Ben Zimmer
Updated April 14, 2014 11:00 a.m. ET

Time is running out to find the “black box” from Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 in the Indian Ocean’s waters. But the search teams are looking for not one box, but two: a cockpit voice recorder and a flight data recorder.

And neither of those boxes is actually black. Bright orange paint makes more sense for retrieval efforts. So how did “black box” become such a commonly known term for these aviation instruments?

When electronic gizmos started showing up in the cockpits of planes, many of them actually were encased in black boxes. In World War II, one such “black box” proved to be quite useful for pilots on bombing missions for Britain’s Royal Air Force as it allowed the crew to locate targets on the ground, even through clouds.

For most of the war, such technology was hush-hush, but the Dec. 7, 1944, issue of Flight Magazine reported on the “astonishing release of a well-kept secret.” The magazine said the radar-equipped device was known to the Royal Air Force as the “black box” or “gen box” (”gen” being British military slang for “information” or “instructions”).

The surreptitious wartime “black box” caught the imagination of engineers. They began to use the term in a more figurative way to refer to devices with inner workings that weren’t immediately understood by outside observers, who could only see input and output. Calling such devices “black” suggested mystery and secrecy rather than implying anything about their color.

In the late 1950s, civilian planes began to carry flight recorders, but “black box” wasn’t immediately applied to them. In fact, one early recorder had a more accurate (and more colorful) name: the Red Egg.

While there are many theories about how flight recorders came to be called black boxes, it likely stemmed from the earlier usage for inscrutable instruments. In newspaper databases, the earliest examples come from late 1963 in articles about two plane accidents: a Swissair flight that crashed shortly after takeoff from Zurich and a British Aircraft test flight that stalled over Wilshire, England, killing the crew.

As the cockpit voice recorder joined the flight data recorder as standard equipment on planes, both earned the “black box” designation in media reports on the search of crash sites. The more technically minded in the aviation industry would prefer using the abbreviations “CVR” and “FDR,” but “black box” is what the public knows.

That is fine with Patrick Smith, a pilot and the author of “Cockpit Confidential,” which seeks to answer all sorts of air-travel queries. “It’s a useful form of shorthand,” Mr. Smith told me, adding that “it is still used colloquially within the industry.” Despite its imprecision, “black box” is instantly evocative.

—Ben Zimmer is the executive producer of Vocabulary.com and VisualThesaurus.com.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702303603904579492012965659896


123 posted on 03/30/2015 7:19:18 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: cynwoody
So, make it three codes: the pilots' code, the cabin crew's, and a duress code. Punch in the duress code, and the other codes stop working, and the transponder automatically squawks the hijack code.

You don't even need to change the coding on the door lock. Just follow the same rule that all U.S. airlines follow: there must be at least two people in the cockpit at all times. If one of the pilots must leave to use the restroom (or for any other reason), then a flight attendant or some other airline employee (often a deadheading pilot) steps into the cockpit until the pilot returns.

124 posted on 03/30/2015 7:39:04 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: rainee
What was the speed at impact? Plausible to open doors & jump out?

400 mph plus. It's a plane striking the ground at near full speed, not a Road Runner cartoon. Even if a passenger could get out of a cabin door (and they can't), he/she is still traveling at the same speed as the plane. Dead on impact.
125 posted on 03/30/2015 8:31:15 AM PDT by Milton Miteybad (I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
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To: samtheman

I heard there were two doctors. In my opinion they are the ones to blame here, NOT the airlines.

I’m a physician. If I declare someone, who is truck driver or pilot, as being too ill to work, I revoke their license temporarily and notify their company.

How can you deem someone too ill to work for psych reasons, and you trust that person to convey this to his employer, knowing that to do so would certainly revoke his pilot’s license probably indefinitely.

In summary, you have a man who is ill, who was told not to work, who shows up for work.


126 posted on 03/30/2015 9:20:40 AM PDT by nikos1121 ("The enemy of your enemy is your enemy!" B. Netanyahu)
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To: KeyLargo

Is that Geraldo? Who did he send that to?


127 posted on 03/30/2015 9:21:53 AM PDT by nikos1121 ("The enemy of your enemy is your enemy!" B. Netanyahu)
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To: nikos1121

European law may be different. They may not have that ability or right.


128 posted on 03/30/2015 9:22:35 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: Chickensoup

You don’t have to divulge what the diagnosis is, just speak generically, but you can be sure that if you do not put someone off work, and make sure he is off, and he plows into someone, then you the doctor are responsible.


129 posted on 03/30/2015 9:24:20 AM PDT by nikos1121 ("The enemy of your enemy is your enemy!" B. Netanyahu)
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To: nikos1121

I understand that, is that required in European law?


130 posted on 03/30/2015 9:29:17 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: rainee

“What was the speed at impact? Plausible to open doors & jump out?”

LOL. Try opening your door at 85mph on the freeway. Now multiply that by a 5X larger door and 5 times the speed.

And, all that would happen if you somehow got out is you would hit the ground at ~ 450mph.


131 posted on 03/30/2015 9:40:52 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: KeyLargo

Another queer gone over the edge. Why was he not kept in the closet?


132 posted on 03/30/2015 10:32:23 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Chickensoup

It’s not required here or there by law as far as I know, but one would consider this standard of care, eg where you are treating someone for a newly diagnosed seizure disorder.

If nothing else, you’re open to a law suit where you’ll have to explain yourself. It sound like this man was obviously impaired. Did these doctors think this kid was going to go to his employer and tell them he was going to be on medical leave, when that would sure disqualify him to fly in the future.

I’m having nightmares on this, as I can picture those poor people helplessly watching the captain screaming and trying to get the door opened.


133 posted on 03/30/2015 10:49:13 AM PDT by nikos1121 ("The enemy of your enemy is your enemy!" B. Netanyahu)
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To: nikos1121

There are duty to warn laws here, as well as laws governing medicos on fitness for employment in fields like aviation, LEO, trucking, military...


134 posted on 03/30/2015 12:03:31 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: nikos1121

The only agency that can “Revoke” or otherwise affect an airman’s pilot certificate is the FAA.

By the way.

Are you an AME?


135 posted on 03/30/2015 2:33:54 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
You don't even need to change the coding on the door lock. Just follow the same rule that all U.S. airlines follow: there must be at least two people in the cockpit at all times. If one of the pilots must leave to use the restroom (or for any other reason), then a flight attendant or some other airline employee (often a deadheading pilot) steps into the cockpit until the pilot returns.

Watch the A320 cockpit door training video.

Now picture the captain in the restroom, the purser in the captain's seat, Lubitz in the co-pilot's seat, and the door locked. What happens next?

136 posted on 03/30/2015 2:46:40 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: nikos1121

Geraldo’s Selfie Continues to Haunt Him, Gets Him Fired

9/04/13 8:00pm

Geraldo Rivera’s mustachioed, leathery, regret-and-pipe-tobacco scented seminude selfie has cost the newsman a speaking gig at Duquesne University.
Doctor, My Eyes

70 is the new 50 (Erica and family are going to be so pissed...but at my age...)… Read more

A spokesperson for the Pittsburgh school said the 70-year-old’s photo — which he tweeted out with the caption, “70 is the new 50 (Erica and family are going to be so pissed...but at my age...)” — was “inappropriate and not in line with the school’s values as a Catholic university.” Rivera is calling the cancellation “pretentious censorship.”

http://gawker.com/geraldos-selfie-continues-to-haunt-him-gets-him-fired-1254260174

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/07/21/internet-stunned-geraldo-rivera-tweets-semi-nude-photo-of-himself-warning-you-will-not-be-able-to-unsee-this/


137 posted on 03/30/2015 3:01:07 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Jewbacca
And, all that would happen if you somehow got out is you would hit the ground at ~ 450mph.

Nah. Much slower than that. Probably between 120 and 180 mph. You'd slow down a lot when you hit that 450mph slipstream. You'd probably lose your clothes and land naked.

If you were really lucky, you'd crash through the roof of somebody's farmhouse, as happened last July in Ukraine.

138 posted on 03/30/2015 3:04:01 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Neoliberalnot
Another queer gone over the edge. Why was he not kept in the closet?

Ummm, by all accounts he had a girlfriend. So, if he was queer, then he still was in the closet...

139 posted on 03/30/2015 3:19:49 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: caww
Now that the world no longer believes in the sanctity of life, ...(we murder babies still in the womb)...life is expendable for whatever one might think in their minds. Assisted suicide, euthanasia, abortion, has given rise to mothers and fathers killing their own children without shame, and a host of other crimes against “humanity”.

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BINGO!!!

Precisely why, after considerable rational thought, I decided that I would NOT be Pro-Abortion for the rest of my life. That is why I am anti-euthanasia, suicide, and other such activities. It is why I am very skeptical of such things as growing stem-cell replacement parts, etc., though there may be sufficient reason to consider such things.

The pro-abortion culture has tentacles that extend far beyond babies in the womb. We must be vigilant or we will not survive as humans.

140 posted on 03/30/2015 4:13:06 PM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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