Posted on 03/28/2015 8:38:50 PM PDT by Liberty1st
“There is no doubt in my mind that he needs to publicly stand up & defend religious freedom & say that he has no regrets whatsoever in signing the RFRA bill....& rub the Progressive’s nose in it while doing so.”
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/pence-effort-clarify-religious-objections-law-underway
Thanks. So he wants legislation that clarifies the “intent” of the law. Hmmm.
He goes on to say, he never anticipated the hostility to the passing of this law. Why? Has he not been paying attention to the news....to the gay activists? We are in a culture war and a messaging war. He should have known. They should never have tried to pass this law until they had engaged in their own message campaign and had a strategy for what was to come.
This is why we are losing the culture war. The left is relentless in defining the issues of today. They don’t care if they lie to get their message across.
I don’t know any non-blacks that follow the NBA; here in NJ we lost our team to Brooklyn, and blacks seemed to be the only ones discussing it. I guess it is like hockey, but in reverse (and we still have our hockey team in NJ).
Yep. Jan could be badass, but usually she was hadass when it came right down to the nut-cuttin’.
It was idiotic backward of Pence and the state of Indiana to sign into law legislation that permits wholesale discrimination against gays.
In fact, I think the NFL, the NBA, the Pac-12, and several proposed convention-events threatened to take away the Superbowl, the Allstar game, the conference tournament, and several conventions. So she meeeeeow-ed and rubbed her fur on all of them. Pitbull became pussycat in a matter of days.
Classic "useful idiot" rhetoric right there.
so, the three queers and five dykes that sometimes attend can continue to do so
worship on the court is of tall black men
You think we should enact laws allowing discrimination against gays in public accommodations?
How about a baker who doesn’t want to bake a cake for an interracial couple? I suppose we should make sure a baker has that right, too.
Pence is on the list of potential Republican presidential candidates.
The law is very vaguely written. If the baker can claim their religious rights have been burdened or might be burdened by providing services to an interracial couple then the law must protect them. So in your scenario, if the baker is a member of white supremacist Christian Identity church then they could, in theory, claim that and could be protected by the law.
Your comment about “wholesale discrimination” has no relation to the reality of what this law does. Can’t believe I have to suggest this to someone here, but try reading it first and then form your opinion instead of just parroting what you’ve heard from celebrities and liberal activists.
"A person whose exercise of religion has been substantially burdened, or is likely to be substantially burdened, by a violation of this chapter may assert the violation or impending violation as a claim or defense in a judicial or administrative proceeding, regardless of whether the state or any other governmental entity is a party to the proceeding. If the relevant governmental entity is not a party to the proceeding, the governmental entity has an unconditional right to intervene in order to respond to the person's invocation of this chapter."
Never mind the intent of the law. It's so vaguely written that it could literally be used to deny anyone service by claiming religious grounds. I could say that the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster commands me to deny you services because you dissed pirates and the law would have to protect me.
BUT......that’s where the the compelling interest/substantial burden test would come into play. People aren’t going to win the argument, exempt if they want to try, that their religious liberty is substantially burdened if they have to sell a lesbian a hamburger. People wailing about that prospect are either hopelessly ignorant or downright Machiavellian.
“even if they want to try”
Don’t know where exempt came from...
He should absolutely have that right. I dispute the claim that a bakery is a public accommodation. The fact of the matter is, one would be very hard pressed to find a baker who would act in such a way. Hearts have changed on the racial issues.
And the fact that you bring that angle into discussion reinforces you as a useful idiot. (btw, that is an historical category. I did not make it up.)
Oh, yeah? Then why is Pence looking to amend it just after he signed it?
So you wouldn’t go so far back as to Jim Crow laws, I take it, but you would allow businesses to discriminate by race whenever they so choose?
And I won’t comment on who’s the idiot for invoking the “useful idiot” phrase in this context.
You are linking to a “site with homosexual tendencies”? You have chosen poorly.
To appease/quell lemmings like you.
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