Posted on 03/28/2015 1:04:56 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
[BIG SNIP]
".....Sen. Cruz is America’s last hope for a credible border. By that I mean a border that is controlled by the citizens of America, not the citizens of other countries. I mean a border that is controlled primarily for the benefit of citizens of America, not the citizens of other countries. I mean a border that is controlled by an American population that appreciates and welcomes immigrants, but only when they come here legally, and in numbers that are conducive to their assimilation into the American value system that is based on the principles expressed in our Declaration of Independence and Constitution.
Is Sen. Cruz going to give us doubletalk about illegal immigration like all of the others who will be running for President? Is the primary problem with America’s immigration laws, or is it with the willingness of America’s government officials to enforce those laws?
It is time for Sen. Cruz to tell the citizens of America something that will allow us to look into our children’s eyes, and tell them that there is still a chance for a credible border under the rule of law. Given his contradictory position, Sen. Cruz owes this to America’s citizens, who watch in agony as their country disappears with its rule of law, and he owes this to those who have not violated our law and seek to become American citizens in conformity with present law.
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
I did that to try and get some sense of why, after reading this: On Immigration, Cruz Aims for Middle Ground, Walker is being hammered while Cruz's similar position is overlooked.
I know that Scott Walker wasn't on top of this issue and I'm glad he's begun to give it the attention it deserves (like he did the last 4 years battling the unions in WI - which began with the signing of budget that revoked in-state tuition for illegals). March 2011:
Walker Revokes In-state Tuition For Undocumented Students Attending Univ And Colleges In Wisconsin "..........More than 200 protestors were outside the company with signs calling Walker, "You dirty rat" and "Shame, shame." ........................" [It wasn't long before 100,000 activists were surrounding the capital and sleeping inside.]
An activist DA and Prosecutor have also been waging (and this is ongoing) a 4 year secret John Doe investigation on Walker and Conservatives in Wisconsin: Part 188 of 188 in the series Wisconsin's Secret War.
So, here is a OpEd from a conservative site by someone who seems very conservative, asking for clarity about Cruz's position on illegals in the country.
A read of the full piece is helpful.
There are those who prefer to attack me, rather than address this honestly but it must be addressed because Jeb will bring this up in the first debate.
So please address the issue, as posed in the American Thinker article.
And let's remain allies in electing a conservative - Not a Jeb. Not a Hillary.
"Yesterday, I was accused of bringing up Sen. Cruz's stance on immigration in a nefarious way when I attached a CRUZ quote and link to a story (from a liberal outlet) about Bush and Walker (and immigration)...."
I would hope no one here would attack you.
You are an FR treasure.
Full title:
“Senator Ted Cruz’s Contradictory Position on Illegal Immigration”
I have this thing about educating - and learning.
Thank you for wishing me well.
Ted Cruz disputes MSNBC claim he supports legalization of illegal immigrants
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/3273091/posts
Rare is a politician who won’t tailor ideology to the electorate of the moment
Especially this ultra hot issue
It’s crazy that an issue like this which is political suicide for the GOP resulting in a demographic winter from which they might never return
That they are so ambiguous about it
Time will tell on ALL these candidates
You only know precisely where one stands.....Jebbie
And it’s bad....
The 2013 article on Cruz’s immigration position that you cite, “On Immigration, Cruz Aims for Middle Ground” is from the Texas Tribune, a left-wing publication, funded by a Soros front group. It quotes a New York Times article that inaccurately, and deceitfully, paraphrases something that Cruz purportedly said about regularizing the status of illegals. This has been discussed in a couple of threads yesterday.
This is a key question that NONE of them wants to answer, but will have to.
Its unpleasant and any answer to it is unpopular.
Do we punish those here for their parents sins, or reward lawbreaking with benefits that they could never have got if they didn't, encouraging more?
Its easy to post anonymously ‘Deport hem all’ but they all, including Cruz, know at the national level that it wont fly.
Its easy to post anonymously Deport hem all "Deport them all", but they all including Cruz know at the national level that it wont fly.
Was the time machine invented? Is it 1954 again? What you could do in 1954 and what you can accomplish in 2015 are two very different things.
BUMP!
Senator Cruz’s campaign spokeswoman Catherine Frazier told us Cruz’s goal in the Gang of Eight amendment was three fold: to get Senators on the record showing where they stood on the issue, that it was a good faith effort to improve the bill, and to stop a pathway to citizenship. Frazier explained it was not intended to suggest support for legalization.
“Cruz supports strengthening the border and fixing our legal immigration and interior enforcement systems before we deal with those who are here illegally,” Frazier said. “It’s premature to discuss what to do with those who are still here illegally until we have made these reforms. Indicating that there may be the potential for amnesty in the future, only encourages more illegal immigration.”
Frazier reiterated Senator Cruz’s consistency on the issue, that the Senator is in favor of expanding legal immigration, and that he vocally opposes President Obama’s executive immigration overreach.
While MSNBC’s claim that Senator Cruz has not specifically detailed his stance on legalizing undocumented immigrants is true, the inference that he supports legalization, is false.
Cruz's goal in proposing the amendment to the 2013 Gang of Eight bill that removed the pathway to citizenship for illegals, was to flush out the duplicity of Democrats. The Democrats wanted the votes of these prospective new citizens, but could not admit it, claiming they cared for the welfare of illegals. Cruz said fine, give them status, but deny them citizenship. The Democrats were caught in their lie. I thought that it was a brilliant tactic.
Yeah it would be alot easier to round them up today with data mining.
LOL....yeah first they came for the illegals.....
Rare? The House and Senate are full of them; the White House even more so.
Walker’s position, the one he was attacked for was misrepresented by the lamestream press (surprise surprise). He did not call for a “pathway to citizenship” as was reported.
His position is very much like that of Ted Cruz, who suggests some sort of legal status that cannot by law ever be a stepping stone to citizenship, and that only for non-law-breakers. I would assume that would include the so-called dreamers, but few others.
This whole issue is so toxic that I think there is no coherent position that will not draw fire from some quarter.
The only thing that makes sense to me to first and foremost to get complete control of the border - all of it. Then to start sorting out who’s who, and most of them need to be repatriated to wherever they came from. Either voluntarily or forcefully makes no difference to me, but it has to happen.
If you’ll remember, communists, socialists and trade unionists were part of that:
When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn’t a Jew.
When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.
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