Posted on 03/26/2015 10:14:41 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
... When the young men got back to Keystone, Fowler said they began ingesting the edible pot. He said his cousin favored some peach tart candies, each piece of candy containing 10 mg of the active ingredient in marijuana, the recommended dose for an adult consuming an edible.
But when Goodman consumed several and experienced no immediate effects he kept gobbling them up.
“Luke popped two simultaneously” after the first two didn’t seem to do anything, said Fowler.
Then he said Goodman took a fifth candy, five times the recommended dose. His mother says her son likely didn’t see the warning on the back of the container which says, “The intoxicating effects of this product may be delayed by two or more hours … the standardized serving size for this product includes no more than 10 mg.”
Several hours later Fowler said his cousin became “jittery” then incoherent and talking nonsensically.
“He would make eye contact with us but didn’t see us, didn’t recognize our presence almost. He had never got close to this point, I had never seen him like this,” Fowler said.
Fowler says Goodman became “pretty weird and relatively incoherent. It was almost like something else was speaking through him.”
When family members left the condo Goodman refused to join them. After they left he got a handgun that he typically traveled with for protection, and turned it on himself.
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Sure, when the medication comes in the form of "cookies" and it's usage is urged as a fun pastime.
But you aren't talking about marijuana as medicine, you are talking about marijuana as recreational pharmacopeia. Your dodge about "medicine" is just to get a foot in the door, and you and I both know it is a deliberately misleading lie.
Wildly exceeding the recommended dose is exactly what the deceased did.
I think all of you dirt bags urging him to try it also bear the blame for his death. I keep telling you that drugs spread because of social interaction, and you keep ignoring the fact that there are VICTIMS when you talk people into trying drugs.
This man is a victim of the recreational dope users urging others to use the product just as much as he is a victim of the product.
Oh, and by the way, here is a couple of Pot commercials. Now who didn't see that coming?
What's that you were saying about usage not increasing?
“There is a big difference between the long slow slide into death of alcoholism and the rapid sudden death of alcohol poisoning which would be a better comparison to the marijuana deaths.”
Actually, quite the opposite. There is not a single recorded fatality from acute marijuana toxicity, so marijuana deaths cannot be compared to alcohol poisoning at all. Every “marijuana death” is actually a “marijuana-related death” if we were to categorize it as alcohol deaths are categorized, because marijuana intoxication is only a contributing factor and not the direct proximate cause of death.
Nice try, though.
Uh dude. You might want to look at your message #39. You said:
“Excessive alcohol use is a leading cause of preventable death. This dangerous behavior accounted for approximately 88,000 deaths per year from 2006–2010, and accounted for 1 in 10 deaths among working-age adults aged 20–64 years.”
Marijuana has a looooooooong way to go to catch up to alcohol in this department.
I suppose you could say the psychosis is secondary.
Sort of like alcohol related death of falling off a balcony.
Drink a pint of 200 proof (100%) alcohol and see what happens.
With you guys, made up statistics are just as good as any. Most of what you people put out is just bullsh*t disguised to look reasonable.
You are suggesting that 50mg is equivalent to 30 beers? And you think this stuff is safe to play with?
Is that why you use them?
Yes, exactly. In that case, the coroner would have to list the death as accidental, with alcohol only as a contributing factor. I expect the same to be the case with this death, the cause of death will be ruled suicide by gunshot, with marijuana as a contributing factor.
You are still going on about my refusal to hunt down the numbers *YOU* wanted. Well you can just F*** off wanker.
“Uh dude. You might want to look at your message #39”
Which was in response to your post, #15, where you brought up the comparison. If you bring up a comparison, you invite comment on it, and cannot subsequently accuse others of a “tu quoque” fallacy when they comment on the comparison that YOU brought into the discussion.
Really, this is like Debate 101.
Sure, when the medication comes in the form of "cookies"
He wasn't eating them for the flavor - THCless sweets are much cheaper.
and it's usage is urged as a fun pastime.
Like Viagra? Relief from medical condition is often likewise seen as an enjoyable outcome - you've made a distinction without a difference.
But you aren't talking about marijuana as medicine
You're right, I'm not - that's your analogy impairment at work.
Wildly exceeding the recommended dose is exactly what the deceased did.
I think all of you dirt bags urging him to try it also bear the blame for his death.
I've never urged anyone to try it.
What's that you were saying about usage not increasing?
I don't recall saying that.
More like I'm continuing to expose you as someone who makes up statistics then whines when someone asks for a citation (because you know no such stats exist).
Well you can just F*** off wanker.
Awww, baby drop his binky?
Referring to the tendency of YOUR GROUP to equate alcohol to marijuana is not *ME* making a comparison. It's me MOCKING your group for constantly making the comparison.
Really, this is like Debate 101.
Exactly. But hopefully you will get up to a more mature level of debate, but I think first you will probably have to put down the weed.
“Referring to the tendency of YOUR GROUP to equate alcohol to marijuana is not *ME* making a comparison. It’s me MOCKING your group for constantly making the comparison. “
Nevertheless, you introduced the comparison into the discussion. You, and nobody else, which means you are in no position to accuse others of a fallacy for simply commenting on a comparison that YOU brought up.
“... first you will probably have to put down the weed.”
There you go again, making ad hominems without even having any evidence to back them up. A sure sign you have run out of rational arguments.
You are exposing me as someone who does not a sh*t give whether you dopers are happy with me or not. I actually enjoy the fact that you are still whining about my refusal to indulge you in another foray into pointlessness.
Awww, baby drop his binky?
Is that what we are calling joints nowadays? I just can't seem to keep up with all the new weed centric lingo.
Sigh. Once again, Basic logic. I did not compare Alcohol to Marijuana. I pointed out that Conflating Freedom is always comparing Alcohol to Marijuana. I was MOCKING the comparison of Alcohol to Marijuana, not indulging in it.
There you go again, making ad hominems without even having any evidence to back them up. A sure sign you have run out of rational arguments.
I can see how you get cross wired. You can't seem to tell the difference between something meant to be humorous and something meant to be serious. It's like your joke meter is broken or something.
“I absolutely do not think that marijuana is anywhere near as dangerous than the damage I have seen alcohol bring.”
It does seem to me a bit of denial to not have concern for the cost of prosecution, and incarceration of users at public expense. Not to mention the destruction of your credentials when you are now a former prisoner of the state.
The WOD has been a blatant failure for years. Serving only to do more and more at greater expense, but in reality doing nothing but destroying reputations, while harder drugs were physically destroying lives. Marijuana has not to my knowledge been in that class.
If we stopped doing that, how would you ever get a response?
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