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Weedkiller alert over cancer link (GMO)
Telegraph UK ^ | March 21, 2015 | Camilla Turner

Posted on 03/21/2015 9:23:30 AM PDT by opentalk

The World Health Organisation’s cancer agency has declared that one of the UK’s most widely used weedkillers is “probably carcinogenic to humans”.

Amateur gardeners and professional farmers have been urged to “think very carefully” about using the popular herbicide Roundup, which contains glyphosate.

A summary of the International Agency for Research on Cancer's (IARC) report, published in The Lancet Oncology, said that the herbicide had been detected “in air during spraying, in water, and in food”.It had also been detected “in the blood and urine of agricultural workers, indicating absorption”.

...The IARC's report said that its use has increased sharply with the development of genetically modified glyphosate-resistant crop varieties.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cancer; farming; fda; glyphosate; gmo; gmolabeling; monsanto; roundup; trollalert
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To: NorthstarMom

” So GMOs being the only positive influence in keeping prices low doesn’t match the timeline of my experience.”

GMO corn was first commercialized in 1996. In 95 the price per bushel was 3.44. In 2015 the price was 3.68.


81 posted on 03/22/2015 12:52:40 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: NorthstarMom

” know, but I was working with the ag industry when GMO seed became widely used. The jump in food prices came before the use of ethanol was mandated.”

In 1947 the price of corn was 2.19 per bushel. In 2000 the price was 1.77. Obviously the jump didn’t occur before 2000 but AFTER 2000 when ethanol began the ramp up!

“World ethanol production for transport fuel tripled between 2000 and 2007 from 17 billion to more than 52 billion liters.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol_fuel


82 posted on 03/22/2015 12:56:46 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: RedWhiteBlue
Lyme/Autism Group Blasts Genetically Modified Foods as Dangerous

...Some GM corn and cotton varieties are also designed to produce poison. Inserted genes from a soil bacterium produce an insect-killing poison called Bt-toxin in every cell of the plant. Bt is associated with allergic and toxic reactions in humans and animals, and may create havoc in our digestive system 

83 posted on 03/22/2015 12:57:50 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: TexasGator

Corn is right around nationwide average cost of production. That means the heart of the Corn Belt actually makes some profit while marginal production areas are looking at alternatives.


84 posted on 03/22/2015 12:59:06 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: NorthstarMom

” I just know that despite buying less food our grocery bill has gone from 12-25% of our income in the past 10 years.”

Don’t put all the blame on the crops or the farmers. Farmers get only about 12% of the money and their share is dropping every year.


85 posted on 03/22/2015 12:59:44 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: NorthstarMom

“The FDA, USDA, etc are at the bottom of my list.”

Below unsourced blogs funded by anti-capitalists?


86 posted on 03/22/2015 1:02:03 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

Nope-by friends with medical degrees :)


87 posted on 03/22/2015 1:20:24 PM PDT by NorthstarMom
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To: NorthstarMom

“I once asked an organic dairy farmer why he chose organic”

hmmmm. Where have we heard about Bt lately ....

“Compare those to natural pesticides. The most commonly used naturally occurring insecticide is Bt, or Bacillus thuringiensis, a bacterium found in soils.11 Bt is effective at killing boll weevils, cabbage loopers, and corn ear worms — and it’s not toxic to humans.12”

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/2011/08/14/myths-busted-clearing-up-the-misunderstandings-about-organic-farming/


88 posted on 03/22/2015 1:23:27 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: opentalk

” Bt is associated with allergic and toxic reactions in humans and animals”

UFO’s are associated with the mysterious disappearance of people.

“, and may create havoc in our digestive system “

LOL! MAY!!!!!!!!! and not one word to back up their claim of “MAY”!


89 posted on 03/22/2015 1:33:16 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: opentalk

“Some GM corn and cotton varieties are also designed to produce poison”

Did you know that that same ‘poison’ is the most common organic pesticide?


90 posted on 03/22/2015 1:34:32 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: NorthstarMom

“Nope-by friends with medical degrees :)”

http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-dumb-celebrities-who-are-way-smarter-than-you-think/

Prior to researching this article, I probably would have guessed that Dr. Oz’s medical credentials were somewhere between Dr. J, Dr. Pepper and whoever Bugs Bunny happens to be talking to when he wants to know what’s up. Dr. Oz is that guy with a doctor TV show who isn’t Dr. Phil. On the Internet, he shows up on lists of the top five idiots of the year for “quackery and peddling ... ‘alternative’ medicine.” The content of his show doesn’t exactly scream medical integrity. His trademark move is to illustrate medical problems by creating gigantic body part obstacle courses for people to walk around inside of, complete with confetti cannons that simulate bodily discharge.


91 posted on 03/22/2015 1:38:47 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: opentalk

” Bt is associated with allergic and toxic reactions in humans and animals, and may create havoc in our digestive system “

hmmmm.....

4. Allergies to the Bt protein have never been observed. Smith cites papers that show that various types of antibodies can be formed against Bt. He does not bother to tell the reader that when almost any protein is injected under our skin or in our veins, our immune system will develop antibodies to it. This is a normal process. We also have antibodies to many different environmental and food proteins circulating in our bloodstreams where they do absolutely no harm. The antibodies associated with allergy are called IgE antibodies. IgE antibodies to Bt have never been reported. There are scientific articles showing this that Smith fails to cite (Siegel 2001; Betz and others 2000).

5. Bt protein binding sites are not present on mammalian cells. Bt proteins are known to act by binding to specific sites on insect gut cells—these sites are called binding sites. For Bt to kill an insect it must be activated by partial digestion, it must then attach to the binding site, and the protein must be inserted into the insect cell membrane where it forms a pore or hole in the cell membrane that eventually kills the insect (Whalon and Wingerd 2003). Mammalian cells lack these specific binding sites needed for Bt attachment. Proteins like Bt can sometimes stick to cells or other proteins in a non-specific or random way and it is not surprising that various investigators have found Bt binding to other kinds of cells, although high quality studies not mentioned by Smith that found no Bt binding to mammalian cells have been published (Betz and others 2003). Often this binding is weak and is easily reversed. These studies have never shown that mammalian cells binding Bt under these conditions are killed the way cell lining insect guts are killed by the toxin. To date all these studies have been categorized as “gratuitous binding” unrelated to the mode of action of Bt. Smith admits the results he cites are “ambiguous.”

6. Thousands of organic farmers depend on Bt as their most effective pesticide. The most common pesticides used by organic farmers contain Bt preparations. Organic farmers find them effective and innocuous (Zehnder and others 2007). Genetic Roulette seems to be casting doubt on their safety and is indirectly criticizing the regulation of biopesticides by the EPA. We find it hard to imagine organic agriculture without Bt products. We have to wonder if Smith is also opposed to organic agriculture.

http://academicsreview.org/reviewed-content/genetic-roulette/section-3/3-3-bt-crops-and-allergens/


92 posted on 03/22/2015 1:44:49 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

We don’t have cable so I’ve never watched Dr. Oz, I don’t know what he teaches regarding nutrition. I homeschool our six children so my time on the internet is limited. Since I can’t seem to break my FR addiction it’s pretty much the only website I go to other than Ana-White.com.

My information regarding nutrition is from my friend’s husband, an MD and my son’s doctor, an MD who specializes in functional medicine.


93 posted on 03/22/2015 2:12:36 PM PDT by NorthstarMom
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To: RedWhiteBlue

I used to think the same thing but read that it was the deaths of kids that brought the “average” lifespan down. Check the numbers again.


94 posted on 03/22/2015 2:17:38 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: TexasGator
Biotech Leader ‘Syngenta’ Charged Over Covering Up Animal Deaths from GM Corn

Pigs Won't Eat GMO Corn

...The Bt-toxin produced in GM plants, however, is thousands of times more concentrated than natural Bt spray, is designed to be more toxic, has properties of an allergen, and cannot be washed off the plant.

Moreover, studies confirm that even the less toxic natural spray can be harmful.  When dispersed by plane to kill gypsy moths in Washington and Vancouver, about 500 people reported allergy or flu-like symptoms.¹, ¹¹  The same symptoms are now reported by thousands of farm workers from handling Bt cotton throughout India.¹²

95 posted on 03/22/2015 2:19:38 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: huldah1776

Of course the death of children in 1900 brought down the lifespan of children then! That’s exactly the point I was making.

Also, the death of women in childbirth brought down lifespan. The death of people due to infections brought down lifespan. The death of people due to accidents brought down lifespan. My own uncle died at the age of 8 due to appendicitis. Three of my great-grandparents buried children that never would have died of those illnesses today.

That is what took people out in those days, they didn’t live long enough to get cancer. Something else got you first at an early age. These days we have excellent prenatal care (at the age of 56, I don’t know even one woman who has died in childbirth), we have antibiotics, outstanding hospitals and trauma centers, etc. What people died from back then would be handled much more differently these days and would not result in death. These things took them out early before they could ever develop cancer.

Take these reasons for early death in 1900 out of the picture, and what, then, remains to cause death? Heart disease, strokes, cancer, catastrophic injury ....

You just cannot compare cancer deaths in 1900 to today. It’s a totally different world with regards to our medical capabilities.


96 posted on 03/22/2015 2:33:26 PM PDT by RedWhiteBlue (Mama tried)
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To: riri
It's a process for sure. Interestingly I was living overseas for a few years, (eating real food because they have real food) and I felt great. My husband who always suffered from indigestion and all the classic middle aged male stuff wasn't having any of it. He lost 20 pounds in the first three months.

(BTW, we're doing ok, thanks).

Restoring gut flora fixed my IBS. Yogurt, that's it.

I later figured out my gut flora (the good, the bad and the ugly) had been wiped out by a simple dose of antibiotics.

Food for thought... IMHO:

Basic stuff that works fantastically well if done on a daily or almost daily basis:

Increase animal fats (bacon and eggs is the bfast of champions)
Real butter, real eggs, real dairy (raw, unpasteurized unhomogenized if you can get it, never low fat)
Oatmeal your only cereal - every day or almost
Whole milk yogurt every day or almost
Decrease carb intake
Don't eat so many carbs
Don't stuff your face with cakes, pasta, bread, cookies, rice, potatoes, noodles
For a real treat, fry your own potato chips, apply sea salt and have just a few dipped in real whole sour cream
When bread, only bread made of: flour salt water yeast
Bake your own cakes/cookies/crackers/snacks (avoid bad stuff by eating none of these that are manufactured)
Lots of varied veggies cooked interesting ways
Use quality (or make own) stocks: beef/chicken/veg
Learn and use herbs and spices to put flavor in food
Increase house/yard work/walks/jogs, on an "irregular" schedule
Heavy exercise occasionally
Drink water - big glass at meals & in between
If you "need" something else, ice tea made from tea bags (nothing but tea) or lemon water

If ingredients say "natural ingredients", that is allowed to (and typically does) include MSG which is bad.

Try to avoid medicine, even aspirin. Try coffee, beer, wine, whisky, etc., instead. Research every medicine before you take it; reject what does not pass muster.

Gut flora out of wack knocks leads to immune system dysfunction.

Inflammation is natural of immune system, but it's rampant out of control all over from diets and medicines.

Not getting enough animal fats is a slow long-term killer, causing all sorts of chain-reaction problems.

Too many carbs is same, long-term killer.

Many on FR probably have found similar things, so of course this is not anything really "new".
97 posted on 03/22/2015 2:44:46 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.)
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To: opentalk

Biotech Leader ‘Syngenta’ Charged Over Covering Up Animal Deaths from GM Corn”

1. Bt corn has been dismissed as a possible cause of death.

Investigators from the Robert Koch Institute concluded that Bt 176 corn was not the cause of death; they suggested a common cause of animal death, chronic botulism, could be to blame.


98 posted on 03/22/2015 3:25:34 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: opentalk

CHENNAI YOUTH TIMEZ

LOL! You have to be joking, right?


99 posted on 03/22/2015 3:26:35 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: opentalk

“Pigs Won’t Eat GMO Corn”

LOL! Nothing like what someone said some old unnamed farmer said ...


100 posted on 03/22/2015 3:29:41 PM PDT by TexasGator
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