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Favorite "Regrets"Songs,Tell us your Favorites.Freeper Canteen 4~20~15
3/20/15

Posted on 03/19/2015 5:03:24 PM PDT by fatima

~Favorite "Regrets" Song's~





Buddy Holly - It Doesn't Matter Anymore








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ROY ORBISON - CRYING - LIVE 1988











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To: fatima
More Fool Me Genesis - Selling England by the Pound.
221 posted on 03/20/2015 5:05:22 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Publius

Beautiful. Thanks.


222 posted on 03/20/2015 5:16:30 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Fiji Hill

I love music from that era. Thanks.


223 posted on 03/20/2015 5:26:05 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: P.O.E.
In these threads, I have the mission of exposing FReepers to the great art songs of the 19th Century. That's why I also posted Chausson, Schumann and quite a bit of Schubert.

I've always viewed "Spring" as Greg's greatest achievement in music.

224 posted on 03/20/2015 5:36:26 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: Publius
You can hear echoes of it in early 1900's recordings. WFMU used to have a show playing Edison Cylinders

I grew up listening to 78's in an Italian household, so I'm used to all sorts of melancholic romantic music.

Thanks again.

225 posted on 03/20/2015 6:01:24 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: P.O.E.

One of the most underrated of Phil Collins’ Genesis songs.


226 posted on 03/20/2015 6:03:59 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: fatima

Steely Dan - “Don’t Take me alive”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gV1sxB8TxI

Warren Zevon - “Send Lawyers, Guns, and Money”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGhd53hV0Z0


227 posted on 03/20/2015 6:11:21 PM PDT by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!)
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To: fatima

ABBA - “One Of Us”
Engebert Humperdinck - “I Never Said Goodbye”
Kenny Rogers - “The Heart Of The Matter”


228 posted on 03/20/2015 6:40:57 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: Kathy in Alaska
Feel Like a Bullet This is the one on the collection that came out in ... ??? '89? Live ... First time I heard it. (The Retreat is also awesome - another Bernie loves the US song.)

Bullet

ooh - listening to it now -> very early version of Where To Now St. Peter right after it .... probably his best vocal tune ever.

Why oh why couldn't he have had some political sense?????

229 posted on 03/20/2015 7:17:04 PM PDT by tinyowl (A equals A)
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To: fatima
Math and Physics Club - "Baby, Please Come Home"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vdBxwISUeQ

230 posted on 03/20/2015 7:27:16 PM PDT by WeatherGuy
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To: dfwgator

Fl


231 posted on 03/20/2015 9:26:52 PM PDT by katykelly
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To: fatima
Bet nobody's posted this one yet:

Mille regretz

By the great High Renaissance composer Josquin des Prez -

A thousand regrets at deserting you
and leaving behind your loving face,
I feel so much sadness and such painful distress,
that it seems to me my days will soon dwindle away.

232 posted on 03/21/2015 6:12:48 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: Publius
I'll see the Romantics, and raise you a Franco-Burgundian - (see above).

A bonus:

Pleine de dueil (full of sorrow).

This may be the prettiest thing I have heard in a long time. Wait for the cascading repetitions with the countertenor on "pour me reconforter."

Full of pain and sadness,
seeing that my suffering increases all the time,
and that in the end I can’t bear it anymore,
I’m constrained, in order to comfort myself,
to render the rest of my life to you.
I beg you and humbly ask,
for the pains that fill me,
never to leave me,
since I’m yours for the rest of my life.

233 posted on 03/21/2015 6:22:20 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Thank you. That’s fascinating.


234 posted on 03/21/2015 6:26:30 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: Publius
It's certainly different. :-)

We have a choirmaster who is simply a genius. He knows all about this stuff. I had never even heard of Josquin . . .

235 posted on 03/21/2015 9:13:31 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: AnAmericanMother
There was an article in "Gramophone" a few years ago about Renaissance music.

A conductor was recording a work by Gabrielli in Venice's St Mark's Cathedral. Like so many pieces of the era, it was written in C. It didn't quite sound right, so on a hunch, recognizing that tone frequencies differed from city to city, he transposed it down to F. The result was that the cathedral turned into a sounding board, and the work resonated with the frequency of the building. He learned a lesson from that experience.

236 posted on 03/21/2015 9:17:31 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: Publius
You know, in the old days, pitch was relative. There was nobody going around with a clipboard and a tuning fork. :-) In fact, the older notation for Gregorian chant HAS no pitch - you just pick your fundamental tone (which is conveniently marked in the notation) according to your choir and your room. And it wasn't written in C so much, just sharps and flats hadn't really been standardized yet. They had something called "musica ficta" (which see) but that was purely seat-of-the-pants and varied from place to place.

You'll see the older stuff (medieval and Renaissance) in modern editions in a variety of pitches, depending on who wrote it down.

Our choirmaster transposes to take advantage of our room (he says the room is the "extra singer" in the ensemble). You have to make adjustments because most American rooms do not have the advantage of 8 foot thick stone walls - which really kills your bass singers because siding just doesn't bounce low tones like thick stone walls do.

We're fortunate to have a very good room - the proportions are correct and although we don't have stone we have brick veneer over poured concrete. Chamber groups and touring singers are always trying to get the church for concerts.

And you notice the bouncing effect more in medieval and Renaissance music because it's written for small ensembles, not the "cast of thousands" that came in with the Romantics. This is a pic of the greatest composer of his day, Johannes Ockeghem (in the glasses), with his choir - all eight of them.

Josquin, by the way, wrote a lament ("deploration") on the death of Ockeghem, who was his master. It really is gorgeous, and the interesting thing is that Josquin pays homage not only with the words, but with the music, imitating some of Ockeghem's characteristic techniques - particularly in the bass lines. Ockeghem was the first to really take advantage of the lowest male voices in ensemble singing - he was noted himself for a very deep and resonant voice.

Deploration sur la mort Johannes Ockeghem ("Nymphes des bois")

Nymphs of the woods, and goddesses of the fountains,
skilled singers from all nations,
change your voices so clear and high into shrill cries and lamentations,
for Atropos, that great satrap,
has caught your Ockeghem in her trap,
[this is an attempt to catch the pun in French]
music's true treasure and masterpiece,
learned and handsome and by no means stout
it is great sorrow that earth must cover him.
Put on your mourning garments,
Josquin, Brumel, Pierchon, Compère, (all great composers)
and weep great tears from your eyes
you have lost your good father.
Grant to them eternal rest, O Lord,
and may perpetual light shine on them.

Cantus firmus: May he rest in peace. Amen.

237 posted on 03/22/2015 10:58:09 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: Publius
. . . and I forgot to mention something I always notice on the videos, because I do it myself.

When you are singing Renaissance polyphony, your part follows its own melodic line (no such thing as melody-over-chords in those days). Since it goes off on its own, you have to keep the shaping of your own line correct - a lot of us wind up using "body english" to keep it going.

Somebody on one of these videos referred to it as "early music Tai Chi". It really is, and it really works (at least for me).

Which is why choir lofts are in the back of the church. Nobody sees me gesticulating and shifting from foot to foot except the priest and the deacon.

238 posted on 03/22/2015 11:01:01 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Beautiful That strikes me as being in neither the major nor minor mode, but something more exotic like mixolydian.


239 posted on 03/22/2015 11:07:40 AM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: AnAmericanMother

I was wondering about that.


240 posted on 03/22/2015 11:08:22 AM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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