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We need a European army, says Jean-Claude Juncker
bbc.com ^ | 9 March 2015 | bbc

Posted on 03/10/2015 2:22:16 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker has called for the creation of a European army to face up to Russia and other threats.

Mr Juncker said such an army would restore the European Union's foreign policy standing and show it is serious about defending its values.

It would not be in competition with Nato, he insisted.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: europearmy; lithuania; ukrainecrisis
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1 posted on 03/10/2015 2:22:16 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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12K Russian soldiers in Ukraine, U.S. commander says
2 posted on 03/10/2015 2:26:12 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Germany - The travel destination.)
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Should work just about as well as the EU.


3 posted on 03/10/2015 2:36:06 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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Wargaming Russia's Military Options in Ukraine


4 posted on 03/10/2015 2:41:11 AM PDT by CMB_polarization
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Russian soldiers 'dying in large numbers' in Ukraine - Nato
5 posted on 03/10/2015 2:54:55 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Germany - The travel destination.)
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The last time they had a “European army” they invaded the
Soviet Union; they failed because we propped up Stalin...


6 posted on 03/10/2015 2:56:51 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

A European Army would amount to Germany tightening its grip over the rest of Europe.


7 posted on 03/10/2015 3:06:03 AM PDT by grania
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Circular Firing Squad.


8 posted on 03/10/2015 3:18:07 AM PDT by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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That was the Germans.

The last ‘European’ army was Napoleon’s.

He forgot his snow parkas and galoshes.

And food. Ya gotta have food.


9 posted on 03/10/2015 3:43:35 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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Yeah. He was the poster child for the maxim: “Never get involved in a land war in Asia.”


10 posted on 03/10/2015 3:52:51 AM PDT by WayneS (Barack Obama makes Neville Chamberlin look like George Patton.)
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PS - Yes, I know that part of Russia is technically Europe, but for aintents and purposes it might as well have been Asia.


11 posted on 03/10/2015 3:54:38 AM PDT by WayneS (Barack Obama makes Neville Chamberlin look like George Patton.)
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The Europeans cannot even control their Muslim invaders, I SERIOUSLY DOUBT they can field an army with any more capability than a Boy Scout troupe.


12 posted on 03/10/2015 3:59:38 AM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win.)
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I wish I had a dollar for every post I read saying let Europe defend itself.


13 posted on 03/10/2015 4:07:09 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Germany - The Travel Destination)
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There were Finns, Romanians, Italians, Hungarians, and Bulgarians in their own armies, as well as countless western Europeans in SS divisions raised among their own countrymen (French, Norwegian, Dutch). Neutral Spain sent the Blue Division volunteers, while Ukrainians themselves joined the fight against Stalin...a very European army.

Failure to understand Europe’s fear of communism leads one to fail to understand Nazism. Were Nazis evil? Absolutely. Were communists worse? Most of Europe thought so...


14 posted on 03/10/2015 4:08:01 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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Suddenly, oddly, not seeing that here.


15 posted on 03/10/2015 4:08:09 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Germany - The Travel Destination)
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Okay.

Let Europe not defend itself.
Small loss at this point.


16 posted on 03/10/2015 4:11:26 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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and the Germans will end up in charge, just like the EU, the Brits will threaten to leave, the French will underperform to the point of where they just want to be involved (at first, then later in charge of— after the Germans take over the firepower) noncombatant operations.

The only way I see this going forward is a suitably agreeable means for all involved to do economic stimulus on a continent-wide scale...we can’t rely on America anymore, we have no fighting force of our own...we’ll have to build the weapons platforms and train the personnel...

Guns and butter.


17 posted on 03/10/2015 5:15:23 AM PDT by ameribbean expat
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The last time they had a “European army” they invaded the Soviet Union; they failed because we propped up Stalin...

We may also discover why it was more advantageous for American military bases and folks to be stationed around the world as a big deterrence - it may be a real deterrence to having some of the host countries from having more grand ideas...

18 posted on 03/10/2015 5:47:55 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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europe needs an army like obama needs another butthole. he already has his, moochelles and any other tranny that walks into the white house. aint that enough??


19 posted on 03/10/2015 5:52:58 AM PDT by Colehill1999 (yellow black or white hillary's pantyhose are out of sight!!)
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Wargaming Russia's Military Options in Ukraine

Excellent overview by Stratfor, illustrating the range of Russia's military options in eastern Ukraine. The last and most practical option Stratfor presents is the one I predicted immediately after Russia annexed Crimea in response to the Maidan coup. The Dnieper River provides the most natural and defensible border between Ukrainian and Russian interests, providing Russia will a broad and defensible land bridge to Crimea and its strategic warm water port of Sevastopol.

I was surprised that Moscow didn't go ahead and invade eastern Ukraine and get it over with last year, choosing instead to provide limited support to the separatists in only two oblasts. But that opportunity might present itself again; as soon as the muddy steppes dry out from the spring rains, I expect Kiev will launch another offensive to encircle Donetsk and reestablish the border with Russia. Moscow will cite Ukraine's violation of Minsk II as justification to pounce on Ukraine's extended army and to consolidate everything east of the Dnieper River. That's my prediction, but I guess we'll see...

20 posted on 03/10/2015 5:58:34 AM PDT by Always A Marine
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