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Ted Cruz questions Supreme Court ruling ordering free education for immigrant kids
Dallas Morning News ^ | March 9, 2015 10:47 am | Todd J. Gillman

Posted on 03/09/2015 12:32:05 PM PDT by SoConPubbie

WASHINGTON – Sen. Ted Cruz said Monday that the Supreme Court probably made the wrong decision in 1982 when it ruled that public schools must provide free education to children who are in the country illegally.

“There’s a strong argument to say that it was [a mistake],” Cruz told a conservative radio host in Des Moines during a campaign visit to Iowa.

WHO host Jan Mickelson, an immigration hardliner, peppered Cruz with questions about Plyler v. Doe, a Texas case in which the justices ruled 5-4 that states must provide public education for students in the country illegally. Jim Plyler was the school superintendent in Tyler, and Doe referred to families living and working there when Texas cut funding for students living in the country illegally.

Mickelson argued that states should now defy the court and ignore the precedent, and prodded Cruz to embrace the idea.

The senator, a top student at Harvard Law School and former clerk to Chief Justice William Rehnquist, stepped carefully. But he agreed that the court got it wrong.

Plyler v. Doe as a legal matter is certainly binding Supreme Court precedent,” Cruz said. “You can have a theoretical argument about the role of the Supreme Court. But I do think there is value in the principle of stare decisis, which is a Latin term for things which are decided. There is value in legal precedent.”

That said, he added, the court probably had no constitutional basis for forcing states to educate children in the country illegally.

“There is a very strong argument that the 14th Amendment doesn’t require that,” Cruz said.

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To: SoConPubbie
RE:”Plyler v. Doe as a legal matter is certainly binding Supreme Court precedent,” Cruz said. “You can have a theoretical argument about the role of the Supreme Court. But I do think there is value in the principle of stare decisis, which is a Latin term for things which are decided. There is value in legal precedent.”

This is contrary to those who claim that if we don't think somethings in the constitution, then we don't have to follow it as law.

21 posted on 03/09/2015 1:09:48 PM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: KC_Lion

[ Shazam!
You could write a whole essay about how this ties in with the School Lunch Program too.

You have got to get and keep people dependent on the Government.

It is how is grows and sustains itself.

“If you don’t feed them, they won’t come” ]

“A people who don’t need their government have little need for people to govern over them....”


22 posted on 03/09/2015 1:10:04 PM PDT by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: WIBamian

[ The money saved if we didn’t give it to illegal invaders could do alot for American citizens in seven months!

Use that money to target business owners that employ illegal invaders and also landlords that rent to illegal invaders. Use that money to pay down our national debt. Use that money to prosecute corrupt politicians. Use that money to fund better services for our disabled military veterans. Use that money to put the Chamber of Amnesty out ouf business! ]

In some ways the winning ticket might be to play the welfare class off of the immigrant class....

But the pro-immigrant people have already tied the illegal immigrants as “Contributing to taxes” which is an out and out LIE when all the ledgers are tallied up.


23 posted on 03/09/2015 1:12:01 PM PDT by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: BlackAdderess

And you didn’t even touch on the vermin and diseases the children of illegal aliens bring into the country.


24 posted on 03/09/2015 1:16:06 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (True followers of Christ emulate Christ. True followers of Mohammed emulate Mohammed.)
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To: grania
How long can the media keep up the myth of those bogus polls showing Ted Cruz as lagging in support?

Cruz or Walker's greatest strength would be if "We the People" got 100% behind either of these candidates.

It's similar to what happened with reagan.

He didn't need to go through the media to talk to the people. We heard him "loud and clear."

IMO, a similar effort is needed today.

25 posted on 03/09/2015 1:16:39 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: SoConPubbie
We need principled, conservative Leadership ON ALL ISSUES. Ted Cruz bring a fidelity to conservative policy that no other potential POTUS candidate brings to the table, including Walker.

BUMP

26 posted on 03/09/2015 1:19:14 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: GraceG
This election will be won on American citizen populism. I truly believe this.

So you are right about the benefits of informing American citizens about how their scarce financial resources are not going to them, but to illegal invaders.

Yes, people vote their pocketbook. As public tax money goes to support an illegal invader infrastructure in America, less money goes to support American citizens.

Get the word out about how ordinary, hard-working American citizens are getting financially screwed by the Democratic and RINO Parties, well then, their votes will be going to a certain, All-American citizen leader, Senator Ted Cruz.

27 posted on 03/09/2015 1:26:18 PM PDT by WIBamian (Cruz for President. Alabama Senator Jeff Sessions for Vice-President. True conservative heroes!)
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To: SoConPubbie

United States of America. US citizens need not apply.


28 posted on 03/09/2015 1:27:40 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: MrTed

I just wish he would do something about it instead of talking about it. Everyday we see a new probably that Cruz has found but after that day no more anything. He is going to be great someday. I just know it. We just have to find a fit for him. I am thinking Supreme Court Justice or Senate Majority Leader. He is NASA guy now but hasn’t done much except one meeting with some astronauts.


29 posted on 03/09/2015 1:32:29 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Walker for President 2016. The only candidate with actual real RESULTS!!!!! The rest...talkers!)
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To: SoConPubbie

Cruz is half right. The states are not responsible to educate illegal aliens. The opinion clearly stated that it could and should be revisited in the future. The ruling was not forever. The ruling sided with what was in the public’s best interest at the time. It did not provide for endless uncontrolled illegal immigration. Back in 1982 Texas was spending I think 65 million. Now it’s over 9 billion. the court held that it wasnt enough money to be concerned with yet... It can be challenged and should be. In fact the kids did not do well and their father could care less when he was interviewed 25 years later. but what school district will fight it now? its just like birth certificates, why are states giving out citizenship? they dont have to. ps the school district wanted some money for the kids. they didnt shut them out. we are screwed. we are not even allowed to make sure only our citizens are allowed to vote. simply because some folks have a different color skin. how stupid is that. hispanics in particular dont even know they are caucasion.


30 posted on 03/09/2015 1:32:45 PM PDT by jdirt
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To: VideoDoctor

I can’t equate Cruz with Walker. There are still some questions about Walker, which have been highlighted by his support of ethanol in Iowa. I’m not totally convinced he isn’t a Chamber of Commerce kind of guy.


31 posted on 03/09/2015 1:38:20 PM PDT by grania
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To: WIBamian

One could also point out that the election could be swayed with the 6.5 MILLION S.S. numbers still active for people over the age of 112. With these numbers not having death noted on them they are used by illegals and other sammers ...I am positive if they scoured past elections these 112 have voted....just saying.


32 posted on 03/09/2015 1:42:54 PM PDT by mythenjoseph (Separation of powers)
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To: SoConPubbie

“Sen. Ted Cruz said Monday that the Supreme Court probably made the wrong decision in 1982 when it ruled that public schools must provide free education to children who are in the country illegally.”

Of course they got it wrong. But the 5 fevered black-robed savants that voted to mandate that states fund free education for illegals probably felt better about themselves after giving this goodie by judicial fiat (at the expense of the American taxpayer).


33 posted on 03/09/2015 1:46:59 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: grania
I can’t equate Cruz with Walker. There are still some questions about Walker, which have been highlighted by his support of ethanol in Iowa

EITHER Cruz or Walkers would be a 180 degree change of direction from where we are currently with Obozo.

I'm NOT nit-picking at this point.

My ONLY NO.. NO .. and NO again is Jeb Bush.

34 posted on 03/09/2015 1:49:27 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: napscoordinator; MrTed
I just wish he would do something about it instead of talking about it. Everyday we see a new probably that Cruz has found but after that day no more anything. He is going to be great someday. I just know it. We just have to find a fit for him. I am thinking Supreme Court Justice or Senate Majority Leader. He is NASA guy now but hasn’t done much except one meeting with some astronauts.

Sorry Naps, but no, his leadership skills and his fidelity to conservative policy positions, which far outshine all other possible POTUS candidates scream for President of the US.

Walker, with his strengths in taking on the Unions, need to be the Secretary of Labor. His skills are perfect for that job.
35 posted on 03/09/2015 2:07:18 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: mythenjoseph

I saw that on Drudge, too. CRAZY! And also the millions of illegal invaders given the right to collect social security checks after they are amnestied. It’s almost like Conservatives are surrounded in America by a multi-faced enemy hostile to America itself. I only wish there were more RINOS, libs, and illegal invaders to defeat at the polls, in legislation, and with judicial decisions, because it would make our victory of Conservatism all that much more symbolically sweet when Ted Cruz is elected President of the United States of America!


36 posted on 03/09/2015 2:07:36 PM PDT by WIBamian (Cruz for President. Alabama Senator Jeff Sessions for Vice-President. True conservative heroes!)
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To: SoConPubbie

The 1982 decision by the USSC in the Plyler v. Doe case was made using the same material used in the 1973 Roe v.Wade case: whole cloth. In both cases the USSC decided upon fabrication when no constitutional basis existed for the decisions. The Executive and Legislative branches of government and the states just blindly obeyed the USSC mandates instead of rejecting them as outright unconstitutional and, therefore, not enforceable. Adherence to both unconstitutional actions have caused great damage to our country.


37 posted on 03/09/2015 2:13:08 PM PDT by lakecumberlandvet (APPEASEMENT NEVER WORKS.)
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To: SoConPubbie; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ..
Ping!

Click the keyword Aliens to see more illegal alien, border security, and other related threads.

38 posted on 03/09/2015 2:45:06 PM PDT by HiJinx (I can see Mexico from my back porch...soon, so will you!)
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To: HiJinx

Liberals heads are exploding across the galaxy.

He’s dead right. Plyler was not only wrong on the mandatory school access, but worse, it’s been used to justify insane interpretations for birthright citizenship.

It was the last despicable gift from the aging, wheezing Warren Court Liberals still there. It should be completely overturned by the Congress but preferably by amendment.


39 posted on 03/09/2015 2:50:33 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: KC_Lion
"If you don't feed them, they won't come"

Bingo. AKA "Don't Feed The Bears".

40 posted on 03/09/2015 2:51:23 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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