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Call, Write, and Fax your Senators and Reps! Can join the NRA if you are not already a member.

If BGC were in place at the time of the founding of this nation, the Founding Fathers would have been shot by the British with that information.

1 posted on 03/05/2015 2:49:24 PM PST by Red in Blue PA
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Politicians are terrified of an armed American public.


2 posted on 03/05/2015 2:51:53 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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DOA


4 posted on 03/05/2015 2:53:35 PM PST by Fido969
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Most gun shops are already required to conduct background checks, but the rules don’t apply to firearm sales made online and at gun shows.

I'd sure like to see any one of these pols try and buy a gun online without going through an FFL dealer.

5 posted on 03/05/2015 2:54:18 PM PST by Inyo-Mono
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The gun battle is raging on Capitol Hill. Lawmakers will introduce new gun safety legislation Tuesday expanding background checks to prevent criminals and people who are mentally ill from buying guns.

Will these politicians exempt themselves from both restrictions?

A restriction on criminals and the insane purchasing weapons would hit the them all pretty hard - especially the democrats.


7 posted on 03/05/2015 2:57:41 PM PST by Iron Munro (Mark Steyn: "fundamentally transformed" is a euphemism for "wrecked beyond repair.")
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TWO years of pure he$$ from this emperor and you are guaranteed not to recognized the TRANSFORMED nation of cowards. Why has no one stood up to the buffoon that is transforming America into a socialist European country?


10 posted on 03/05/2015 3:00:30 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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But the gun safety legislation comes in stark contrast to recent Republican bills that would expand concealed carry laws across the country and allow hunters to use armor-piercing ammunition.

Hunters can already use armor piercing ammunition. I doubt if the deer cares if the round is armor piercing and neither would I. The expansion of carry laws in my state (Kansas)is simply saying "if you can openly carry a gun in our state without a permit or training why should a CCW be different.

Personally, if some idiot is going to abuse CCW by blasting away indiscriminately , I am hoping he hasn't had much training.

11 posted on 03/05/2015 3:00:42 PM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarca only ones we can gesm or criticism...or do.)
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***expanding background checks to prevent criminals and people who are mentally ill from buying guns. ***

Done been done!

“Today we begin to disarm the criminal and the careless and the insane. All of our people who are deeply concerned in this country about law and order should hail this day.”-Lyndon Johnson when he signed the 1968 GCA into law.


12 posted on 03/05/2015 3:05:26 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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How does a background check prevent people who are "mentally ill" from buying a gun if Federal regulations under HIPAA prohibit the disclosure of medical information about patients?
13 posted on 03/05/2015 3:13:02 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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“the rules don’t apply to firearm sales made online and at gun shows. “

LIES! The same rules apply EVERYWHERE! This is nothing but an effort to force private citizens to go through a FFL dealer to conduct a private transaction so they can create a national database of guns and owners.


14 posted on 03/05/2015 3:15:43 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (True followers of Christ emulate Christ. True followers of Mohammed emulate Mohammed.)
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Thank you for referencing that article Red in Blue PA. Please bear in mind that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

"The gun battle is raging on Capitol Hill."

FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

Note that regardless what FDR’s thug justices wanted everybody to believe about Congress’s Commerce Clause powers when it decided Wickard v. Filburn in Congress’s favor in 1942, FDR’s justices wrongly ignored that a previous generation of state sovereignty-respecting justices had clarified the following. The earlier justices had indicated that the states have never delegated to Congress, expressly via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate intrastate commerce. And over-the-counter gun sales are reasonably a part of intrastate commerce.

”State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress [emphases added].” —Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

As a side note to this discussion, please consider the following. Given that there are no clear delegations of power in the Constitution by the states for the feds to regulate firearms used for personal protection, it is disturbing that gun laws evidently started appearing in the federal books during the time of Constitution-ignoring FDR.

Franklin Roosevelt: The Father of Gun Control

16 posted on 03/05/2015 3:27:41 PM PST by Amendment10
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“but the rules don’t apply to firearm sales made online and at gun shows.”

That’s a Lie right there - typical of the gun grabbers


18 posted on 03/05/2015 3:45:45 PM PST by Dr. Prepper
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“Most gun shops are already required to conduct background checks, but the rules don’t apply to firearm sales made online and at gun shows. The Public Safety and Second Amendment Rights Protection Act would close this loophole and expand background checks to all gun sales. “

BULLCRAP. Bald faced lie. Online sales require 100% background checks. They are performed at the location of the FFL the buyer has it shipped to. Furthermore, if any FFL sells at a gunshow, it is exactly like he did it in his store.
The only gunshow without a check is if two private parties swap or sell. The only way to stop that is to require ALL transfers to go through an FFL. The only way to enforce that is full gun registration so you can prove who owns what.

Lies,,,


19 posted on 03/05/2015 3:48:56 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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You are all correct but you miss the most obvious reason the Left wants “Universal Background Checks”: once the law’s in place,they tighten the reasons to deny transfers to include everything on earth, down to traffic offenses.

Remember when they added “domestic violence” to the list of offenses to preclude firearms ownership? They even made the mere accusation sufficient to deny transfers.

They want the net to be complete and then they’ll tighten the mesh.

We need to repeal the Brady Law and GCA 68.


21 posted on 03/05/2015 3:59:16 PM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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“This bill is anti-criminal, and will help keep spouses, kids and communities safe..."

Jeez, they left out kittens and puppies and unicorns.

22 posted on 03/05/2015 4:10:01 PM PST by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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Next will be the prohibition of buying pop tarts online.


25 posted on 03/05/2015 4:35:46 PM PST by WIBamian (Cruz for President. Alabama Senator Jeff Sessions for Vice-President. True conservative heroes!)
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Most gun shops are already required to conduct background checks, but the rules don’t apply to firearm sales made online and at gun shows.

A bald faced lie.

29 posted on 03/05/2015 5:04:52 PM PST by TigersEye (ISIS is the tip of the spear. The spear is Islam.)
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I was just being lectured today about how stupid everyone who didn't vote for Mittens is.
30 posted on 03/05/2015 5:32:54 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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And now to disarm us...


32 posted on 03/05/2015 7:38:38 PM PST by Tzimisce
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“but the rules don’t apply to firearm sales made online”

Wow, it should be against the law for someone this ignorant of a subject to be allowed to write and publish an article about it.

Online sales across state lines ALWAYS first require delivery of a firearm purchased online to a Federally Licensed Firearms dealer who is required by Federal law to perform an InstaCheck background check on the buyer before transferring the firearm to the purchaser.

Also, many states like Colorado require gun show sales to perform this same procedure prior to transfer.

Basically, Tim Devaney is making shite up. Either that or he’s simply mindlessly propagating the lying propaganda of the anti-gunners behind this BS legislation.

So, take you pick:Tim is either making stuff up or is a mindless tool of the anti-gunner propagandists. Either way, there is nothing legitimate about his “news” article: it’s pure propaganda.


33 posted on 03/05/2015 8:23:18 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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NRA? The same ones that endorsed Reid? The same group that ‘happily’ went along with ‘common-sense’ 2nd A infringements?

GOA is by far a more principled institution.


36 posted on 03/06/2015 7:59:40 AM PST by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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