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Why Don’t Libertarians Like Scott Walker? [Is Rand worried?]
The Libertarian Republic ^ | March 3, 2015 | Charles Barr

Posted on 03/04/2015 12:20:09 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

While Scott Walker is touring the country trying to stay atop of the polls for the 2016 Republican Presidential Nomination, his home state of Wisconsin is struggling to keep people in the state. Since 2013, nearly 2,300 people have left the state of Wisconsin and the household income has slipped about .01%.

If we don’t consider these small, nit-picky numbers, the economic prospects of the state are great – Wisconsin went from number 49 on the economic prospects to number 21. Walker himself laid out most of his economic success stories in his CPAC speech this past weekend, most of which is a far stretch, especially considering there is still a $280 million budget deficit that the state is still grappling with.

Since his name has been at the top of numerous polls, Walker has been trying to hone in his viewpoints to fit the traditional conservative view for the Republican primary. In other words, Walker has been trying to get votes, not just in Wisconsin this time, by being a politician around the country. Recycling one of his popular lines, Walker said at CPAC, “Up there in Washington, we have a president who measures success by how many people are dependent on the government. There’s a reason we celebrate the Fourth of July and not April 15, because in America we celebrate our independence from the government and not our dependence on it.”

Most libertarians don’t have a problem with this type of rhetoric. After all, Walker did improve the economy of Wisconsin ever so slightly, no matter how many Democrats or libertarians (or other Republican Presidential candidates) really want to argue it. Libertarians don’t celebrate April 15 either, that’s for sure. But the point is, no matter how big Walker wants the state’s private sector to be, there is no way that the economy could improve without allowing a free-market economy to actually take root. This means removing the government from the equation, not keeping it there. Essentially, there is no reason to believe that if a Democrat or another Republican were the Governor of Wisconsin that the economy would be better or worse than under Walker. Economically, Scott Walker is the same old flavor that the Republican Party has been embracing ever since 1989. He is doing some things, such as breaking apart public employee unions, which are a drastic departure of their usual behavior. But his overall approach is the same.

His views on foreign policy are worse than his mediocre economic policies for the state of Wisconsin. At CPAC, he compared his success with unions in Wisconsin with his ability to challenge ISIS rebels abroad. This triggered a firestorm against the governor. Following the convention, he immediately came out and said that his initial views on immigration, where he favored a slight form of amnesty, were changed. On civil liberties, he supports Wisconsin’s constitutional amendment defining a marriage between a man and a woman. In addition, he believes marijuana is a gateway drug to more dangerous substances and does not support its legalization.

Ideally, a more libertarian candidate for president would have a sound economic background while supporting civil rights and a more constitutional approach to governing – both at home and abroad. This puts Walker at odds with this limited approach to governing a state, and would likely put him at odds with this limited approach to governing a nation. Additionally, it also means that a plan to win the presidency is in place that includes minority outreach, young voter support, and a message that is consistent with is or her governing record (which also appeals to these voters).

Unfortunately, Walker believes in a campaign for president that is polarizing and unapologetic. This translates to a divisive victory in a primary election, and probably a staggering loss in a general election. That’s the larger problem for Scott Walker, and ultimately, why he should stay in Wisconsin.

America isn’t ready for Hillary, or Elizabeth, or Bernie, or Biden. But these four people have the advantage of minority outreach, young voter support, and a message that is (arguably) consistent with their governing record. That’s where Scott Walker fails short. Walker is one of the most polarizing politicians in this nation, and has little regard to how others view him on a national stage – as long as he gets the headlines and the poll numbers. Why turn voters off to a limited approach at governing? A consistent message of limited government should welcome new people, not turn them away. That’s how the election will be won.

Running a campaign at odds with factions of voters and dividing them may work in a primary election, but it will backfire in a general election just like it has in the past two general elections for president of the United States. That’s why Scott Walker’s technique of dividing people in the nation should raise a red flag to those who are working to bring people of all types together in the name of liberty. Scott Walker should worry about uniting everyone Wisconsin before he worries about dividing us across the nation.

n aspiring filmmaker with a passion for liberty-minded politics, Charles Barr resides in Monmouth County, New Jersey and attends Montclair State University with the intention of graduating in 2017 with a double major in filmmaking and political science and a minor in communications. Charles has volunteered for various campaigns including: Ron Paul for President 2012, Stephanie Ziemba for State Assembly, Steve Lonegan for US Senate, Ken Kaplan for Governor, Brian Goldberg for US Senate, and Dorit Goikhman for US Congress. In addition to politics, Charles was the assistant director for the feature length film, My Brother’s Girlfriend that premiered in early 2015 and has helped with the production of various shorts. Currently, Charles serves as the Associate Director for the Empowerment PAC, the Assistant Chair of Herrera PAC, and is writing a web-series based on the dangers of prescription painkillers.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016; becausetheyrecinos; becausetheyredemwits; becausetheyrefinos; becausetheyrelinos; becausetheyrerinos; libertarian; randpaul; scottwalker
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I could post a lot of links to clear up all the misinformation about what he's written about Walker - but why? I've seen how a lot of movement Libertarians work.

Scott Walker on Twitter

1 posted on 03/04/2015 12:20:10 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Weird self-contradictory article.


2 posted on 03/04/2015 12:25:58 AM PST by ifinnegan
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To: ifinnegan

Follow the money - it must be flowing to Walker.


3 posted on 03/04/2015 12:27:28 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

After the SC primary if Jeb Bush is the only GOPe candidate remaining in the race, and more than one of the others remain in the race, Bush will be the nominee. Dividing votes is a sure path to losing.


4 posted on 03/04/2015 12:28:14 AM PST by entropy12 (Real function of economists is to make astrologers look respectable.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Why would Rand be worried if Losertarians don’t like Scott Walker?? I’d think it would be opposite.


5 posted on 03/04/2015 12:30:07 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody
If this article reflects "conventional" thinking in the Libertarian camp - Rand is worried.

Here's more:

****CLICK on graphic.

6 posted on 03/04/2015 12:36:24 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
So, Rand won the straw poll, as he did in 2013 and 2014, and as his father did in 2010 and 2011, Mittens having won in 2007, 2008, 2009, and 2012.

But Walker won the dark blue Media Value Share, whatever that is, with Rand coming in third, behind Walker and Bush.

Not sure what to make of it.

7 posted on 03/04/2015 12:54:00 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Walker is NOT FROM a free work State...
victim of predatory parasitic UNIONS...
has nothing against treasonous UNIONS..
merely wants some limits on them..

cannot get elected if he was against treasonous UNIONS..
he tolerates them.. much like Myth Romney.. George Bush Jr..


8 posted on 03/04/2015 12:54:13 AM PST by hosepipe (" This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole.. ")
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To: hosepipe

AND most other republicans..


9 posted on 03/04/2015 12:55:26 AM PST by hosepipe (" This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole.. ")
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To: hosepipe
4 MONTH siege and aftermath: The 2011 Wisconsin protests were a series of demonstrations in the state of Wisconsin in the United States beginning in February involving at its zenith as many as 100,000 protesters] opposing the 2011 Wisconsin Act 10, also called the "Wisconsin Budget Repair bill." Subsequently, anti-tax activists and other conservatives, including Tea Party advocates, launched small pockets of counter protests. The protests centered on the Wisconsin State Capitol in Madison, with satellite protests also occurring at other municipalities throughout the state. Demonstrations took place at various college campuses, including the University of Wisconsin–Madison and the University of Wisconsin–Milwaukee. After the collective bargaining bill was upheld by the Wisconsin Supreme Court on June 14, the number of protesters declined to about 1,000 within a couple days.

The protests were a major driving force for recall elections of state senators in 2011 and 2012, the failed recall of Governor Scott Walker in 2012 and a contentious Wisconsin Supreme Court election in 2011."...............

February 2015: Scott Walker will sign right-to-work bill fast-tracking through Legislature

10 posted on 03/04/2015 1:06:05 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Interesting article. Years ago, I thought I became a Libertarian. I agree marriage should be no business of the government. Are Libertarians pushing the Homonazi agenda too? We are at war in too many countries, so I know I am trending Libertarian. Abolish the Department of Everything and restart. I know supporters were bused in.. anyone who buses in supporters does not get my attention. Did the Libertarians do that too? This is where politics gets in the way of rational democracy.


11 posted on 03/04/2015 1:59:44 AM PST by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia.)
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I don't have first hand information but I read that the Paul supporters at CPAC voted for Paul as their 1st and 2nd choice.

Feb 28, 2015:Can Rand Paul's CPAC straw poll win streak be stopped? "..........Paul’s supporters were out in force to cheer him on Friday with throngs of backers wearing "Stand with Rand" buttons to cheer him on.

Members of a libertarian group Young Americans for Liberty said they’d brought in hundreds of Paul supporters from all over the East Coast, and some said they took full advantage of a glitch in the electronic voting system allowed them to choose Paul as both their first and second choices.

Paul will also likely draw big support from members of the Leadership Institute, a libertarian-leaning nonprofit and CPAC sponsor that trains young grassroots conservatives and had a large presence at the event....."

12 posted on 03/04/2015 2:08:12 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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>> household income has slipped about .01%

Ouch, $10 for every $100k earned...

That’s a net a positive in this economy.


13 posted on 03/04/2015 2:09:20 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I’m not a “Libertarian”, but when I take “what are you” quizzes, I always end up “libertarian”. One of the results is in my profile.

I’d really like to see a “Constitution” party.

And my preferences are Walker, Cruz and Paul a distant third. I live in rural KY, btw. (after 45 years in Seattle).


14 posted on 03/04/2015 2:16:19 AM PST by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: cuban leaf
....(after 45 years in Seattle).

You have Post Traumatic Socialism Disorder.

15 posted on 03/04/2015 2:23:39 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Rand Paul is over encouraged by having been elected to an assistant Dog Catcher position. He needs to tak a heaping helping of Shut Up and go away.


16 posted on 03/04/2015 3:40:14 AM PST by Lion Den Dan
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Because Walker said he thinks Obama loves America?


17 posted on 03/04/2015 4:02:51 AM PST by albie
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To: albie

Right.

You buying that?


18 posted on 03/04/2015 4:13:47 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It appears “libertarians” dislike Gov. Walker because he’s for marriage and against drug legalization.


19 posted on 03/04/2015 4:14:08 AM PST by Tax-chick (Wash, rinse, dry, put away.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Why wouldn’t I? He said it. Conservatives would’ve loved him joining Rudy on that. I’m sure the media would’ve had a hay day with it, but nothing he utters will go without dissection and misinterpretation.


20 posted on 03/04/2015 4:20:06 AM PST by albie
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