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Homeless Man Grabbed Officer’s Pistol Prior to Fatal Skid Row Shooting: Chief Beck
KTLA ^ | 3-2-15 | Anthony Kurzweil, Eric Spillman and Christina Pascucci

Posted on 03/02/2015 9:56:04 PM PST by smokingfrog

A homeless man fatally shot by police in the Skid Row area of downtown Los Angeles on Sunday had grabbed an officer’s pistol, LAPD Chief Charlie Beck said Monday.

Beck made the statement during a noon press conference to update the public on the department’s investigation into the deadly shooting, which was captured on video.

“While on the ground and struggling with the officers, the man forcibly grabbed one of the officer’s holstered pistols, resulting in an officer-involved shooting,” Beck said.

Police were responding to a robbery call at East Sixth Street and South San Pedro Street when the shooting took place.

When officers arrived “they saw the individual they believed was a suspect and attempted to take him into custody,” LAPD Cmdr. Andrew Smith told reporters following Sunday’s shooting.

Video taken by a bystander and posted to Facebook showed several officers involved in an altercation with the man.

Multiple attempts by officers to disable the man by using Tasers were apparently unsuccessful, Smith said. Witness Yolanda Young said the homeless man would just get back up after being stunned.

(Excerpt) Read more at ktla.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; policeshooting
Witnesses said the man went by the street name “Africa,” but he has not been officially identified.

video at link

1 posted on 03/02/2015 9:56:04 PM PST by smokingfrog
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Totally not clear what happened from the video.

2 posted on 03/02/2015 10:04:57 PM PST by null and void (As always, keeping a low profile with anything you do is to your advantage.)
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To: null and void

“They both reached for, they both reached for, for the gun!”

from CHICAGO, the musical.

Apparently it’s a handy excuse.

The guy was a drunk idiot resisting arrest. Four cops should have been able to subdue him without executing him on the spot.


3 posted on 03/02/2015 10:09:07 PM PST by TigerClaws
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To: null and void

I think your image explains what happened?


4 posted on 03/02/2015 10:39:54 PM PST by Oliviaforever
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To: smokingfrog

When Politically Correct Charlie Beck backs his own cops it’s a red letter day.


5 posted on 03/03/2015 12:07:12 AM PST by Pelham (The refusal to deport is defacto amnesty)
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To: TigerClaws
Homeless=Bum.

I'm betting that the Chief is correct.

LAPD is not always on the up-and-up, but have been most of the time. They're pretty good, and mostly professional.

I've sat as a juror in a couple of cases where they handled themselves correctly, both from pre-trial perspectives that they were ruffians manhandling purely innocent thugs.

Of course, had you been out there leading the charge it all would have gone down just perfect.

Give us a break, okay?

6 posted on 03/03/2015 1:01:53 AM PST by onedoug
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To: TigerClaws

He had just been released from a stay in a mental institution and released.


7 posted on 03/03/2015 1:20:02 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: smokingfrog

If the report is accurate, this sounds like a justifiable shooting.

Not that the facts matter to the street protesters. They just hate cops.

I thought I heard one witness say the cop who did the shooting was black. If so, this story will fade away.


8 posted on 03/03/2015 2:41:15 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

Watch the video closely, you can hear the black LAPD guy scream “Stop resisting!”, then “Get off my gun”. “He’s got my gun! He’s got my gun!”

If you are quick enough with pausing the video, you can barely see the perp trying to point gun as the first shot goes off. Good shoot. Thank you officer, civilization thanks you. Oh, and what’s up with the 80lbs crack whore taking the cops night stick and trying to swing it? LOL


9 posted on 03/03/2015 5:02:49 AM PST by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: DCBryan1

10 posted on 03/03/2015 5:11:50 AM PST by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: null and void

By the video, the guy was being pummeled by 4 cops doubtful he was doing anything other than protecting himself.


11 posted on 03/03/2015 6:48:13 AM PST by SERE_DOC ( “The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.” TJ.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

“Not that the facts matter to the street protesters.”

Nor to some commenters on this site.


12 posted on 03/03/2015 8:59:30 AM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: SERE_DOC

13 posted on 03/03/2015 6:16:24 PM PST by School of Rational Thought
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Man Killed by Los Angeles Police Was Wanted by US Marshals

Axel Cruau, the consul general for France in Los Angeles, said the man stole the identity of a French citizen and was living in the United States under an assumed name. He had applied for a French passport in the late 1990s to come to the United States to "pursue a career in acting."

Using the name Robinet, the man was identified as a French national in 2000 when he was convicted of robbing a Wells Fargo branch and pistol-whipping an employee in an effort to pay for acting classes at the Beverly Hills Playhouse.

That arrest spurred the consulate to provide the man with support, but as he was nearing his release from prison in 2013, officials found another Robinet in France with the same birthdate and discovered the one in the U.S. was an impostor, Cruau said.

"The real Charley Robinet is in France apparently living a totally normal life and totally unaware his identity had been stolen years and years ago," Cruau said.

While in federal prison in Rochester, Minnesota, the bank robber known as Robinet was assigned to the mental health unit, and federal officials said medical staff determined he was suffering from "a mental disease or defect" that required treatment in a psychiatric hospital, documents show.

He served roughly 13 years in prison and then spent six months in a halfway house before being released in May 2014, said Ed Ross, a spokesman for the Bureau of Prisons.

Foreign nationals are typically deported after serving criminal sentences. But in this case, France would not take the man, since he wasn't really a French citizen. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 2001 that immigration authorities could not detain people indefinitely because no country is willing to take them. So once his sentence was served, the man known as Robinet was apparently set free.

14 posted on 03/03/2015 11:01:20 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

Thank you. I real that this morning.

It’s always interesting to see what comes out during these things.


15 posted on 03/04/2015 5:58:50 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: BunnySlippers

“read that”


16 posted on 03/04/2015 5:59:20 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: onedoug
Give us a break, okay?

Fair enough.

I'll give it a shot, or 99...


17 posted on 03/04/2015 6:15:39 AM PST by null and void ( If race doesn't matter, why does it matter so much?)
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To: smokingfrog

“Foreign nationals are typically deported after serving criminal sentences.”

The article was good until that point. The crooks are more likely to get citizenship than get deported.


18 posted on 03/04/2015 6:38:14 AM PST by Pelham (The refusal to deport is defacto amnesty)
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