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White House looking to creep into 401(k)s
NY Post ^ | 2/28/15 | Jonathon M. Trugman February 28, 2015 | 11:21pm

Posted on 03/01/2015 7:22:49 AM PST by Enlightened1

Under the false pretense of calling for new and tougher so-called fiduciary standards for financial brokers, advisers and retirement plan representatives, the White House once again horned in on Wall Street’s compensation formulas.

However, what the president surely knows is that a vast majority of retirement plans — IRAs and 401(k)s — are in simple fee-based products like mutual funds. The commission-based accounts are for those who prefer to direct their brokers in certain purchases inside some of their retirement products.

The key to the White House’s interference is in its nuanced language.

Currently, a broker may make a recommendation that must be “suitable” for retirement account assets such as 401(k)s and IRAs.

However, the president wants to take it a step further and mandate that it be in an investor’s “fiduciary best interest.”

The administration surely knows that commission rates and fees on Wall Street have never been better for the consumer, and to pretend to be able to offer even cheaper rates seems disingenuous.

It also opens a huge can of worms.

What if an investor who has been successful with Apple wants to buy 100 more shares of the tech giant for his or her self-directed IRA?

Does the administration really want a broker to interfere because in the broker’s opinion it isn’t in the “best interest” of the investor?

It’s all about control. It’s your money, America. The system functions quite well. Adding more pages of red tape will not improve performance, but it just may get your broker to drop your account, just as many credit lines were closed after Dodd-Frank passed.Come on, IRAs and 401(k)s are the few savings products that actually do work in this country for everyone.

IRAs and 401(k)s are personal retirement accounts, not government pensions. Please keep your hand out

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 401k; fee; ira; obama; obama401k; obamaretire; retirement; steal; tax; theft; wallstreet
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To: Enlightened1
ObamaRetire:

"If you like your retirement plan, you can keep your retirement plan. Period," lied the Obama.

21 posted on 03/01/2015 9:19:55 AM PST by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: Starstruck
You will find your nice 401k nest egg getting a very small bump and find it being equally shared by you and several other people.

Spread the wealth - well, NOT the Conmander-And-Sheik's wealth, though. If Obama likes his healthcare and his retirement plan and his Internet and his weather, HE'LL keep all that. After all, he's not a peasant, like you and me.

For you and I, mere peasants, there's ObamaCare, ObamaNet, ObamaWarm, and now ObamaRetire.

22 posted on 03/01/2015 9:25:17 AM PST by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: Enlightened1

This is not just a White House issue...they have all been trying to get into these accounts, even prior to 2006.

Frankly, this is why we should all have lumpy mattresses.


23 posted on 03/01/2015 9:25:19 AM PST by EBH (And the angel poured out his cup...)
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To: WKUHilltopper

They will just force a certain percent into Govt Bonds/bills.


24 posted on 03/01/2015 9:26:40 AM PST by Vermont Lt (When you are inclined to to buy storage boxes, but contractor bags instead.)
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To: Enlightened1

Redline here


25 posted on 03/01/2015 9:31:47 AM PST by CPT Clay (Follow me on Twitter @Clay N TX)
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To: grumpygresh

Shemitah

That’s certainly interesting. First time I’ve heard of it.


26 posted on 03/01/2015 9:32:47 AM PST by sergeantdave
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To: Enlightened1

If you want to really find out what’s going on, research the middle class task force that was created early in the Obama administration. The expansion of ERISA (under the department of labor) and the proposed lifetime annuities are cause for real concern. They have proposed that a portion of qualified plans be carved out for lifetime annuities that start at the citizens age 75. Of course, they want these lifetime annuities to be funded by government, not life insurance or annuity companies.


27 posted on 03/01/2015 9:38:52 AM PST by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: Enlightened1

This easily morphs into “for the best interests of the investor, the government says you must invest X% of the account in government bonds.”


28 posted on 03/01/2015 9:45:47 AM PST by tbw2
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To: Enlightened1

Gee who didn’t see this coming. Anything that benefits the citizen 100% guaranteed this enemy of the United States will attack it. Can we start the rebellion now?


29 posted on 03/01/2015 11:41:36 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Obama: 12 acts of blatant treason and counting)
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To: Enlightened1

How come you abandoned the thread on FREEPER sleepers ?


30 posted on 03/01/2015 11:51:49 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Because the stupid troll kid got his idiot young can toasted but good. The Viking Kittehs might be dialing up the juice as we speak....


31 posted on 03/01/2015 12:40:24 PM PST by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a great life!)
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To: jdsteel
Of course, they want these lifetime annuities to be funded by government, not life insurance or annuity companies.

Yes and SSI was supposed to mimic the annuitization of a life policy, look how good that has worked out, it is broke. Yes you are correct, hidden in a bill forwarded by Rep Richard Neal of Mass a few years ago was reference to a gov t. guaranteed note or some other instrument I had never heard of before. I asked here on FR, what is it? Do any FR-finacial Pro's ever heard of it? I hadn't, neither did they. My guess is it what you talked about and what Teresa Ghilarducci has been on a screed about and that is 401k's are no good bla, bla, bla...

Uh-huh, right.... I am not buying any of what they are pedaling...

32 posted on 03/01/2015 12:48:47 PM PST by taildragger (It's Cruz, Pence, or Walker. Anything else is a Yugo with Racing Stripes....)
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To: Enlightened1

The a White House is proposing to shut out private investment councillors from managing personal 401Ks by putting an additional 15% tax on accounts that are managed by an investment councilor if you keep the same one that you used before retirement.

It was in the WSJ last week.


33 posted on 03/01/2015 12:55:53 PM PST by Eva
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To: Eva
The a White House is proposing to shut out private investment councillors from managing personal 401Ks by putting an additional 15% tax on accounts that are managed by an investment councilor if you keep the same one that you used before retirement.It was in the WSJ last week.

Who's brain fart is this? What if you are using a SEP-IRA for your 401k as lets say a high end attorney and you retire and want to use the same firm before and after retirement you can't? What about that relationship? It is a relationship business! You mean you have to change because they say so? Where is this in the Investment Advisory Act of 1934? Yes Dodd-Frank-FINRA what a flippin' mess... Un-Freakin-Believeable...

34 posted on 03/01/2015 2:04:02 PM PST by taildragger (It's Cruz, Pence, or Walker. Anything else is a Yugo with Racing Stripes....)
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To: EBH
Frankly, this is why we should all have lumpy mattresses.

If your talking Yellen bucks, they're easy to mess with. All you have to do is inflate them out of existence, or simply change the color.

35 posted on 03/01/2015 3:37:20 PM PST by Stentor ("The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity.")
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To: taildragger

Oh, you can continue to use the same advisor, but you will pay 15% sur charge to the government .

I don’t think that it applies to people who are already retired.


36 posted on 03/01/2015 4:20:38 PM PST by Eva
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To: TurboZamboni

Government: The home invasion robbery that never ends.


37 posted on 03/01/2015 7:27:43 PM PST by 4Liberty (Prejudice and generalizations. That's how Collectivists roll......)
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To: Enlightened1
Eventually and inevitably the government will someday conclude that the "suitable" investments for retirement are "safe" government bonds. It will then be a small step from recommending to requiring that all accounts be converted to such instruments rather than "risky corporate schemes."
38 posted on 03/02/2015 9:42:24 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Eva

Title of the article?


39 posted on 03/04/2015 1:28:37 PM PST by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: EBH

As long as that lumpy is made up of something besides FRN’s.

They can steal the value out of those easier than anything, without one person in 100 knowing it.


40 posted on 03/04/2015 1:31:33 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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