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German tank battalion to be activated amid Russia crisis
dw.de ^ | Feb 27, 2015 | Deutsche Welle

Posted on 02/27/2015 2:04:57 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper

Germany plans to activate a tank battalion that exists only on paper as it seeks to increase the country's military capability. The defense minister spoke of a "changed security situation" amid the conflict in Ukraine.

In a magazine interview published on Friday, German Defense Minister Ursula von der Leyen said the tank battalion, based in Bergen in the state of Lower Saxony, would receive more equipment and personnel as part of efforts to redress what she called "an investment bottleneck."

She also told the magazine, which is published by the German Bundeswehr, that already existing units would be equipped with more material and that the already close cooperation with the French, Polish and Dutch armies would be stepped up still further.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany
KEYWORDS: islam; putin; russia; ukraine
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To: jmacusa

You are just clueless.


81 posted on 02/28/2015 10:22:36 AM PST by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: MrEdd
I have read on number of books on Soviet military history and it's centralized command structure. And it isn't just the Bolsheviks who did ‘’nasty things’’. The Russian Bear has a very bloody history. My oldest brother was an officer in the 5th. Marine Division in the late ˜70s and imparted some insight to me into how the Soviets did things and again, I've studied quite a lot of Russian military history. The Russians have always relied on numbers. ‘’Quantity’’, said Stalin, ‘’has a quality all it's own’’. However quantity didn't do much for them in Afghanistan though. Not in the long run but in Europe it might. That is if Putin pushes this. Certainly a former Marine such as yourself knows strategy isn't fixed. That's what always doomed the Red Army. Centralized command structures, if relied on, aren't able to deal with the fluid nature of combat. I don't know... no one can read Putin's mind and the thought of seeing Russian tanks storming through the Fulda Gap is to me anyway, inconceivable. Seventy years on and seeing Western Europe a battle field again, with Germans squaring off against Russian armor-- again? That would be something indeed but history is an amazing thing. I suppose if one lives long enough history will repeat itself.
82 posted on 02/28/2015 10:36:11 AM PST by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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To: ansel12

Says “The Lost Causer’’. Thanks bud. Quite a compliment coming from the likes of you.


83 posted on 02/28/2015 10:37:58 AM PST by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

>> creeping militarisation of Russian society

As the commie Left works hard to feminize the West.


84 posted on 02/28/2015 10:39:29 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

There’s nothing creeping about it. Desertions are up on both sides of the Ukraine thing - Russian and Ukrainian.


85 posted on 02/28/2015 10:41:19 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: jmacusa

That doesn’t even mean anything, it is just another goofy post.


86 posted on 02/28/2015 10:42:25 AM PST by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: ansel12
Simple bud. Do you really think Americans want their kids going off to Europe to fight Russians? And no, I don't think of Ivan as a ‘’squared-jawed superman’’. Very capable, ruthless and not to be underestimated but not a ‘’superman’’.
87 posted on 02/28/2015 10:43:02 AM PST by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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To: ansel12

Keep giving me that free parking in your head bud.


88 posted on 02/28/2015 10:44:29 AM PST by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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To: RinaseaofDs
Doesn't surprise me. I've said a while ago here giving that a new generation of Russians have been born after the fall of communism in Russia and are enjoying things other generations never knew why would they want to get themselves killed for Vlad?
89 posted on 02/28/2015 10:48:03 AM PST by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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To: ansel12
When did you guys come to this conclusion that Russians are square jawed supermen and we are incompetent boobs and losers, is this just Putin worship?

LOL Rasputin! Wake up! The Russians are building tactical nuke torpedoes that can vaporize a CVN. We're more concerned about what restroom a transexual service member should use.

Ansel, I'm seeing this shit with my own eyes every single day. We are in no way even close to motivated to take on Russia.

90 posted on 02/28/2015 10:50:42 AM PST by Drew68
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To: Drew68

>> We’re more concerned about what restroom a transexual service member should use.

My point at post #84. The Left in America might best be routed.


91 posted on 02/28/2015 10:54:46 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: jmacusa
I don't know... no one can read Putin's mind and the thought of seeing Russian tanks storming through the Fulda Gap is to me anyway, inconceivable.

The Russians aren't at the Fulda gap anymore, they would have to fight through a 1000 miles and some NATO countries to get there.

Read post 71. Your Russian super army doesn't have the muscle to conquer NATO.

92 posted on 02/28/2015 10:55:24 AM PST by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: jmacusa

Putin’s going to have a tougher time pulling off the stuff they pulled of in the 20th century. No doubt about it.


93 posted on 02/28/2015 10:57:30 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: Drew68

Well I’m glad that you are a sailor, but NATO will defend itself if Russia attacks it, and we are strengthening our defenses daily.

Now you are saying that the American and NATO naval forces are no match for the Russian navy as well?


94 posted on 02/28/2015 10:58:56 AM PST by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: M Kehoe

There is no such thing as a tactical nuclear missile, as their use will be followed by strategic nuclear missiles.

The “tactical” portion won’t last more than 4 hours before the entire balloon goes up.


95 posted on 02/28/2015 11:00:03 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
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To: RinaseaofDs

No kidding, as an example of what you pointed out.

“Consider the situation today. East Germany no longer exists, while Poland, the Czech Republic, Slovakia and every one of Russia’s other erstwhile Warsaw Pact partners are now members of NATO. So are Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, which in 1989 were parts of the Soviet Union itself. In 1989, the Red Army had almost a half-million troops and 27 maneuver divisions (plus enormous quantities of artillery and other units) on the territory of its three main allies. Today, it has a total of seven divisions in its entire Western Military District, all of which are based on its own territory. Indeed, the entire Russian army today boasts about 25 divisions, fewer than it had forward deployed in its Eastern European allies during the waning days of the Cold War.

Today, Poland, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, and Germany alone field more divisions than Russia has in its Western Military District. These countries are backstopped by the rest of NATO, including, of course, the United States.”


96 posted on 02/28/2015 11:07:05 AM PST by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: jmacusa

My only point is that not only are nuclear weapons not “off the table” their use is in fact guaranteed if the west pursues Ukraine and seems to be winning. We know this. There isn’t any debate to be had, and political chicanery can not change that.

Even if the US stays out of the European Union’s flailing attempts to remain viable we need to be beefing up our infrastructure and preparing for what a nuclear war will bring because Brussels is stupid enough to bring one about.

And we need a commander in chief who will not allow the US to be devastated in a first strike without ordering a counter response while it is inbound. We don’t have one of those right now. Even at this site most participants have experienced only peace for so long that they can not comprehend the necessity.


97 posted on 02/28/2015 11:13:28 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: MrEdd

Nonsense.

Russia either succeeds in invading Ukraine or they commit suicide by launching nuclear weapons?

We need to be nipping this Russian aggression in the bud and shipping weapons to Ukraine and making clear to Russia that the world won’t stand for this threatening and attacking of Europe.


98 posted on 02/28/2015 11:21:40 AM PST by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: MrEdd

The ‘’ pursuing Ukraine’’? You made mention of the Crimea, to me I interpret that as Russian historical anxiety about having the ‘’warm water port’’. I can understand that. But Putin invading Western Europe? And nukes? There are no winners there nor would it be a war. One and it’s all over. I’ve said here before that Russian leaders, pre-Soviet and post have gone either to far in the Bears ambitions or too little. In any event my point is if this thing in Ukraine isn’t resolved soon to either Putin’s satisfaction, i.e re-absorbing it back to “The Motherland’’ or he backs off(to me not likely) he’ll develop a case of the “Kremlin Flu’’ and be forced out of power. I can’t imagine anyone in his circle wanting to see a nuclear annihilated wasteland as the price of victory in Vlad desire to be czar of some version of modern Imperial Russia.


99 posted on 02/28/2015 12:23:52 PM PST by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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To: RinaseaofDs

Right on that point. Vlad must really think this is 1939 or something. The guy hasn’t gotten out much.


100 posted on 02/28/2015 12:27:45 PM PST by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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