ALL of the landscape screams FLOOD !!!
And there are soo many more.
These rocks did not rise up, the earth around them was removed. That's a whole lot of soil that needed to go somewhere. The evidence of a flood is everywhere.
Posted on 02/27/2015 11:00:14 AM PST by fishtank
The Whopper Sand
by Tim Clarey, Ph.D. *
Evidence for Creation
There’s a huge deposit of sand in the deep Gulf of Mexico, and no one seems to know how it got there—except maybe Flood geologists.
Early in my career as a geologist for an oil company, we were told not to prospect in water deeper than 2,000 feet. Most offshore oil is found in sand layers sandwiched between thick layers of mud and clay, and our management believed no sand could get that far offshore, and drilling costs were too high.
However, in 2001 the BAHA 2 well was drilled through almost 7,800 feet of water and into the Wilcox Sand at the base of the Tejas Megasequence. The drillers found 1,100 feet of nearly continuous sand. This discovery shocked geologists, who termed it the “Whopper Sand,”1 and paved the way for numerous nearby discoveries of billions of barrels of oil.
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All over Texas and Oklahoma for a start.
“On the coast of Oregon there is basalt rock - square miles of it.”
Look up the Columbia River Basalts. It is not recent, from Miocene age.
And, since I don’t know exactly where you are talking about, keep in mind that the Pacific NW is a volcanic hotbed, mostly Pliocene to Recent in age.
“If it is truly sand - that is odd. Sandstone - so what. Ocean levels, continents, etc. have been all over the place, different levels, etc.”
Well, first, sandstone is just a sand deposit plus time and compression, so it really wouldn’t remove any questions (I do think they are talking about sand, not sandstone though).
Second thing is, the ocean floors are not identical geologically to continental masses. The sea floors are composed entirely of igneous rock, explained by geologists by the process of seafloor spreading from the mid-ocean ridges. So you can’t just wave your hands to explain a huge sedimentary deposit on the ocean floors. Barring some extraordinary explanation, or an entirely new theory for the origin of the ocean floors, sedimentary deposits are not supposed to be there.
“I’m guessing it was a basalt flow that is fairly recent and flowed over the old beach.”
Yes, most likely, but that is only possible in the shallow areas, because they are still part of the continental masses. In the deep ocean, geologists expect only basalt, and there wouldn’t be anything below it until you hit magma.
Texas and Oklahoma are not on the ocean floor the last time I checked.
They were in prehistoric times. As was the area in question off Mexico.
You can choose God’s word or man’s “knowledge.” I will go with my Creator.
...and God keeps telling the deaf that He created everything:
Mat 19:4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
Mar 10:6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.
Mar 13:19 For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Act 4:24 And when they heard that, they lifted up their voice to God with one accord, and said, Lord, thou art God, which hast made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all that in them is:
Act 14:15 And saying, Sirs, why do ye these things? We also are men of like passions with you, and preach unto you that ye should turn from these vanities unto the living God, which made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all things that are therein:
Act 17:24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;
Rom 9:20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
1Co 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
Eph 3:9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:
Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Heb 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
Heb 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Rev 4:11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.
Rev 10:5 And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven,
Rev 10:6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:
Rev 14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
Either we believe God isn’t a liar, by faith, or we believe depraved men, who don’t WANT there to be a God that will judge them for their depravity.
1Jn 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
Obviously those “Christians” who are faithless about the early chapters of Genesis must also be faithless about all these passages too.
Six Evidences of a Young Earth
https://answersingenesis.org/evidence-for-creation/six-evidences-of-young-earth/
“Normal river deposition simply doesn’t fit that bill.”
I agree. But where your conclusion rules out the possibility of catastrophic flooding in a post-glacial period I don’t imagine you’ll care to discuss that idea with me.
You can actually do both. Especially since God and the Bible are silent on the age of the Earth and all that surrounds us.
Actually getting to know some of these “unbelievers” might change your mind about them.
Why not take an old earth creationist to lunch. You might learn something.
There are people who will swear up and down that it had to be 24 hour “days” (the term “day” is also used in some scriptural contexts to mean a bounded period of time) even though there is no (direct) account of the earth even being there until well into the creation “week.”
This is a modern brouhaha and ironically rests on “scientistic” ideas, such as a constant clock. Older sages, ignorant of science, still did not readily envision Adam being in an absurd hurry to name all the animals, for one thing.
Sorry, but a plain reading of the Scripture leaves no doubt. I’m not interested in calling God a liar. They’re essentially committed the crime of false prophecy, claiming God didn’t say something He clearly said, and saying God said something He didn’t say.
You have a bias towards science that older sages did not, with no clock sitting by their desk, ticking... your so called plain reading is very colored by your environment.
This is like debating with a fish as to whether it is wet.
That scenario actually fits the evidence better than the premise of a global flood. The ice dam failure would be a localized event, tending to concentrate the sediment deposit in one place. Global flooding would tend to recede in every direction, leaving sediment deposited all across the shoreline.
ALL of the landscape screams FLOOD !!!
And there are soo many more.
These rocks did not rise up, the earth around them was removed. That's a whole lot of soil that needed to go somewhere. The evidence of a flood is everywhere.
Old earth accounts gladly allow for floods... of ocean water, way before the Lord put any man there.
More likely a series of ice dam failures as have been documented in the Idaho scablands of the Snake River watershed.
If you have the free Google Earth Pro you can look at the sea bed off the Mississippi delta and then compare it to the sea bed off the mouth of the Columbia River and you’ll see similar structures at the end of both river’s undersea canyons.
“But where your conclusion rules out the possibility of catastrophic flooding in a post-glacial period I don’t imagine you’ll care to discuss that idea with me.”
I’d be happy to discuss it. The thesis of this article is in fact that the obvious cause for the deposition is catastrophic flooding, only they don’t believe the source is from glaciers. I think we can both agree that catastrophic flooding seems the likely source.
You suggest the source of that flooding is from glaciers, but how can you determine that, versus flooding from another source? Is there some signature of glacial flooding in the deposit? Or do you only suggest it because it’s the only suggestion that fits the existing narrative?
Indeed, and much of the American Southwest, from Arizona to New Mexico has the same geologic features, so it’s a much larger volume than just what is suggested from that one picture.
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