Posted on 02/26/2015 12:51:17 PM PST by OL Hickory
New Jersey schools would be required to teach students how they should interact with police officers under proposed legislation a sponsor says could protect both kids and cops.
(Excerpt) Read more at nj.com ...
Repeat after me:
“I do not wish to speak to you and want to remain silent. I want to consult with an attorney before answering any questions or making any statements.”
Class over.
“I don’t get what’s so odd about this. My dad taught me”
there’s your answer..your dad and not the state!
When did that turn around?
When police officers stopped dealing with people, and started looking at citizens as sources of revenue.
Many of them view citizens as “criminals who just haven’t been caught yet”.
If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face — forever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=EZLN4oaSf7s
“Moments later, Officer Jesus Arocho knocked the phone out of his hand and threw him to the ground face first. The phone landed flat on the ground with the camera pointed up and continuing to film.
“Arocho, assisted by Defendant Andrew Hulse, placed Mr. Donovan under arrest. Meanwhile, Mr. Donovan’s phone, which had landed on the ground with the camera facingup, continued to film. It captured the actions of another police officer, Defendant John Doe 3, who walked over to the phone, stood over it, then stomped on it with his boot, several times, in an unsuccessful effort to destroy it.” the lawsuit continued.
Thankfully, Donovan’s phone was inside a shock-resistant protective case and the phone was unharmed. The video, and evidence of this blatant misconduct, was preserved.
Arocho then arrested Donovan on bogus charges of “disorderly conduct” and for “riot, failure to disperse.” These charges were ultimately dropped.
Arocho lied in his police report, stating Donovan was pepper sprayed “as he began to close the distance between himself and the officers.” The complaint points out that this claim is blatantly false as the incident was captured on video.
Donovan ended up spending 5 to 6 hours in a cell, falsely imprisoned, and was denied any assistance removing the pepper spray from his eyes.”
My attorney gave me a stack of printed card to use during encounters with the police:
“OFFICER: PLEASE BE ADVISED -
I hereby exercise my constitutional right to remain silent and will not answer any questions.Further, I do not consent to any search of myself or my property. I exercise these rights under the 4th and 5th Amendments to the United States Constitution. If I am being arrested please advise me so that I may contact my attorney. If you are going to issue me a citation please do so and allow me to leave. If I am not being arrested nor issued a citation I wish to leave now.”
The three times I have used it, all of them traffic stops, reactions have varied. One officer simply nodded and wrote me a citation.
Another refused to accept the card at first, shouting “What IS that” and acting as if I had tried to hand him a napkin with a dog turd on it. He became more and more flustered when I failed to respond to his questions in any way, and then he finally took the card. He also wrote me a citation and allowed me to leave.
The third officer took the card and read it. He then laughed and asked: “Can I keep this?”. When I nodded he put it in his shirt pocket and said: “Thanks. You’re free to go. Have a nice day.”
Your experience shows that there are good cops, bad cops, and ugly cops. Seriously, I don’t have a problem with most cops. I think most of them try to do a good job. But there are a number people who got swirlies from the football team in the locker room every day when they were in 8th grade, and now they have guns and badges to live out their revenge fantasies.
They should never have become police officers.
Should the chilrun have canned foods in their pockets...just in case?
ok kiddies. here’s your lesson.
1. don’t steal.
2. don’t rape.
3. don’t murder.
then you won’t have to learn how to interact with the police.
This isn’t the 1950’s anymore.
Some cops do their jobs reasonably. But too many see ALL “civilians” as a potential criminals/threats and treat them as such. If cops must be treated with respect, then so too, must citizens. It’s a two-way street and if cops want us peons to bow down to their authority, kiss their boots and say, “Yes sir, whatever you say sir,” then should citizens should be treated accordingly.
I once read in Shotgun News Magazine that anti-gun laws “Were to keep the n*88ers in their place. Well we’re all n*88ers now.”
The same applies to the police.
Just send the kids home and tell them to watch an episode of “Cops” every night. What cops do, and how the public should behave around them becomes very clear.
When I was in school -- and that was in a city that is now another "chocolate city" with its last mayor convicted on all counts -- we didn't want to interact with the policeman, and we would have known somehow that it would be a bad idea to walk down the center of the street carrying a box of stolen Swisher Sweets, even if we didn't know what Swisher Sweets were.
(Sidewalks, okay, won't attract the policeman's attention. Walking in the street carrying stolen property, bad idea. Attracts the policeman's attention. It's really not awfully difficult to comprehend.)
It might be more efficient and less costly to buy a radar detector to prevent encounters with the police in the first place.
I am no book-licker, moron. I was responding to your comment. Many of the police shootings, such as the Brown shooting, was justified, and the people making an issue of that shooting live in abject ignorance of the facts.
” It’s a two-way street and if cops want us peons to bow down to their authority, kiss their boots and say, “Yes sir, whatever you say sir,” then should citizens should be treated accordingly.”
That is not what ‘respect’ means.
OTOH, cursing and fighting a cop is not going to lead to a good ending ...
When those people show up, then you can attack them, your post didn’t fit on this thread, and probably not even at FR.
Not legal in Virginia.
Oh, bite me.
No wonder you post nonsense.
I hear you. But if so many people don’t have dads to teach them, doesn’t it make sense for someone to tell 17 year old males that it’s a bad idea to jump out of a car and yell at the cop who pulls you over?
I suspect what may be animating criticism of this proposal is the fear that advice like my dad’s to me, and mine to my kids, has nothing to do with what these kids are going to be told. Instead, courtesy of the NJ CLU and other do-gooders, they’re going to be told all about their “rights” and nothing about their duty to be a law abiding citizen. I should have stressed in my original comment that I share that concern and don’t have a good answer, and that if the people in control of creating this teaching opportunity are going to do that, then I don’t support it at all.
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