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US prisons outsource inmate healthcare to private companies. My son died in their care
http://www.theguardian.com ^ | 02/24/2015 | Tomi Lynn Harris

Posted on 02/24/2015 7:54:55 AM PST by redreno

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To: wideawake

Courts are not in session on Saturday and Sunday and one can be required to appear there.


61 posted on 02/24/2015 9:51:54 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: dragnet2

I think maybe you should re-read your comments.


62 posted on 02/24/2015 9:54:21 AM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: redreno

I read the article.

If what is written is in fact true, it is sad.

However, the author herself states that she has been given no information regarding this matter and there is no statement in this article from a doctor or a representative of the company who is accused of “killing” this man.

She is simply stating a wild accusation with no facts or evidence.

It is shameful of the Gaurdian to put this on their site, as written.


63 posted on 02/24/2015 10:08:57 AM PST by Noamie
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To: redreno

proper care,absolutely, has to be taken for the prisoners...however, the state is not in the babysitting business....sh** happens and you must be very careful in blaming the authorities...and it had nothing to do with the for profit company...


64 posted on 02/24/2015 10:14:11 AM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails overall!)
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To: terycarl
Just as a word to the wise. If you use VA medical care, always have your meds with you and or an updated list. Whereas the Gov't does have a list of your meds in the computer it may or may not be current. Also if you are rushed to a civilian hospital you need to notify the VA within 24 hours.

In short designate someone to keep track of you and your meds if you should be put in a position where you cannot look after yourself.

65 posted on 02/24/2015 11:01:34 AM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: dragnet2

The type of crime and it’s seriousness usually determines if they bond out or go to the county jail. I don’t know what happened in this case but I’ve been assaulted by someone having a seizure. I didn’t know he was having a seizure until he was restrained. You deal with all kinds of sick and crazy people in prison. It’s not always easy to know what you’re dealing with. I don’t know what happened in this situation but I won’t pass judgment without more facts.


66 posted on 02/24/2015 11:59:26 AM PST by peeps36 (Save The Tortoise And Kill The People)
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To: Star Traveler
Even with an attorney ... you can be in there for 72 hours, and in that length of time ... you can be DEAD!

Kind of hung up on that aren't you??

You have a far better chance of getting killed on your way to jail in a traffic mishap than you do in jail....does it ever happen, of course it does, people die in church at Sunday services

get over it....you are a hell of a lot safer in jail than in MANY big city "hoods"...

67 posted on 02/24/2015 12:12:05 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails overall!)
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To: lacrew
I know police/guards have a hard job; and, they deal with liars and con artists all day - but stories like this are too common.

Actually, they are EXTREMELY rare....pay attention

68 posted on 02/24/2015 12:20:09 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails overall!)
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To: Vermont Lt
My wife and kids are sick of me watching cop shows like Law and Order and Criminal minds where I point out all of the violations of things like search and seizure. Sure, it makes for good drama, but it sets a bad precedent.

One of the worst offenders, IMO, was The Mentalist. Loved the show, but protocol? Hah.

69 posted on 02/24/2015 12:29:50 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Why would you want to "fundamentally change" a country you love?)
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To: terycarl

It’s obviously a fact that can happen ... ummm, I mean it did happen! ... :-) ...


70 posted on 02/24/2015 12:29:52 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: lacrew
I think this is less about poor healthcare and more about poor treatment of a prisoner - shackling him during a seizure. This fits a pattern I have seen...

Here in Maryland, cops tased and suffocated a Down Syndrome young man who could not understand he had to leave the theater after the movie ended. They did this in front of his caregiver.

71 posted on 02/24/2015 12:34:05 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Why would you want to "fundamentally change" a country you love?)
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To: taxcontrol; stars & stripes forever
prison run health care is not much better and in some instances, is or was arguably worse [than government health care.]

We'll soon get a full report from Teresa Guidice, Jesse Jackson's son and Reverend Wright's daughter.

72 posted on 02/24/2015 12:36:05 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Why would you want to "fundamentally change" a country you love?)
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To: defconw
“Also if you are rushed to a civilian hospital you need to notify the VA within 24 hours.”

Why?

After the VA tried to kill me through incompetence and third-world hygienic practices, I avoid them and never will go to them again. Ever. Tri-Care for me and VA can go pound sand.

73 posted on 02/24/2015 1:49:36 PM PST by Hulka
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To: Hulka
Service connected soldiers who have less then 20 years are not eligible for Tri-care. If a person is in a civilian hospital and VA is not notified within 24 hours the vet pays the bill.

I would prefer that my husband would let me get him private health care but he won't, so....... Just passing on info that might be of help to someone. He's a disabled Vietnam combat vet with all the paperwork to prove it. He's right, they owe him, I just hope they don't kill him.

74 posted on 02/24/2015 2:18:35 PM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: defconw

Prayers for him. . .and I hope he listens to you.

See http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3260497/posts?page=24#24 for ‘typical’ VA ‘care’ that almost killed me.


75 posted on 02/24/2015 2:21:54 PM PST by Hulka
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To: terycarl

“Actually, they are EXTREMELY rare....pay attention”

We’ve actually had one person die in jail custody from a medical condition and two commit suicide in recent years...all within 24 hours of being in-processed. And I already wrote about the poor guy who got tased while having a stroke. All in my little ole’ community.

I’m sure on a percentage basis these instances would be shown to be ‘rare’ - but for the most part they are completely unnecessary.

I expect a lot from cops. They have been bestowed with a lot of power, to include the ability to detain people and use deadly force. And when wielding that power, incidents like this should be almost unheard of.


76 posted on 02/24/2015 3:18:14 PM PST by lacrew (5th)
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To: redreno

Many if not most jails and prisons have adopted policies that block ready access to health care and medications. This is because of not just cost considerations but because a false demand for medical service is a common way for inmates to abuse and frustrate their jailers. In concept, there could be a policy of punishing only those who abuse the system, but in practice, every exercise of discretion provides a potential basis for expensive individualized hearings and for court litigation. Perversely, decades of liberal court decisions on the rights of inmates have in this and other respects made jails and prisons harsher and more dangerous places for inmates.


77 posted on 02/24/2015 3:24:01 PM PST by Rockingham
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To: wideawake

He was arrested for selling football tickets without a license, you jerk.

20 years ago my mother was arrested for a forgotten parking ticket. Did she deserve to die during the 36 hours that she was in jail, too?


78 posted on 02/24/2015 3:30:47 PM PST by Marie
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To: Marie
He was arrested for possession with intent, you terrible researcher.

People do not get arrested for a single parking ticket. I know you aren't telling the truth.

79 posted on 02/24/2015 6:27:22 PM PST by wideawake
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To: Hulka

Oh dear! I know, I know. He’s had good care as far as I know, but not being a doctor or nurse you wonder, could they be doing something more? But he’s a stubborn old man.


80 posted on 02/25/2015 3:50:12 AM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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