Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

ATF Seeks to Suppress AR-15’s by Banning Common AR-15 Ammo
Gun Owners of America/gunowners.org ^ | February 18, 2015 | Gun Owners of America

Posted on 02/21/2015 6:20:02 AM PST by Q-ManRN

In the winter of 2012-13, Barack Obama went to war against the AR-15. Every liberal establishment ally in the country was mobilized to ban the rifle and destroy what they dismissively called “the gun manufacturers' lobby.”

In the end, fewer than 40 senators (in a Democrat-controlled Senate) voted to ban semi-automatics.

So what do you do when even a Democrat-controlled Senate will not support your lunatic agenda? What do you do when your agenda runs contrary to the law and the Constitution?

You just ignore your opposition and go on the offensive, which is exactly what the Obama Administration did within the past week.

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) is proposing to illegally suppress the AR-15 by banning SS109 and M855 ammunition for that rifle as “armor piercing ammunition” under a 1986 statute banning certain types of ammunition -- a statute which amended the Gun Control Act of 1968.

Rather, this is an illegal attempt to ban or limit AR-15's by banning types of AR-15 ammunition.

If the ATF can get away with illegally banning a popular ammo round (because it can penetrate body armor), how long do you think it will be before it’s banning other popular hunting rounds -- which, by the way, can also penetrate body armor!

Most importantly, however, GOA will be working with Senators to “defund” or overturn this ammunition ban.

(Excerpt) Read more at gunowners.org ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: ar15; atf; guncontrol; secondamendment
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-25 next last
Please go to the GOA website for help with contacting your Senators about opposing this measure and with making public comments to the ATF.
1 posted on 02/21/2015 6:20:02 AM PST by Q-ManRN
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: MinuteGal; M Kehoe; mcmuffin; Matchett-PI; Seeking the truth; JulieRNR21; surfer; Bob Ireland

GOA ping


2 posted on 02/21/2015 6:24:01 AM PST by Q-ManRN (Progressivism is rngegressive!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Q-ManRN

Why the sudden interest in banning this? It’s been around for a long time. Body armor has been around for a long time.


3 posted on 02/21/2015 6:25:12 AM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: The Antiyuppie

Obama want to establich a North American Caliphate with him as Caliph.

Can’t have the dhimmi’s armed, now can we?


4 posted on 02/21/2015 6:31:14 AM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Q-ManRN

Subjects should not be permitted the means to fight back when we come to attack them!


5 posted on 02/21/2015 6:34:20 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Q-ManRN

Back in the day, President Bush was on a fool’s errand to make big government more compassionate and efficient. Big government, by definition, is arbitrary, intrusive and inefficient.

Sadly, the regulatory state the GOP itself helped create—quite possibly naively and without evil motive—is a weapon easily wielded against Americans. Government is not our friend. It’s force.

So much for writing laws that give the executive branch broad discretion, eh?


6 posted on 02/21/2015 6:46:22 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Q-ManRN

They are about 3 generations away from depleting current ammo supplies.


7 posted on 02/21/2015 6:51:54 AM PST by G Larry (I'm not here to make liberals happy.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Q-ManRN

Bump.


8 posted on 02/21/2015 6:58:43 AM PST by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Q-ManRN

Every American should own one of these and have a stockpile of ammo available, and learn how to handle it. Right now ISIS has training camps in America and agents here. We will need these to defend ourselves and our families.

AND that bastard in the White House KNOWS this which is why he is trying to disarm us. That way we will be forced to surrender to Islam or these monsters will be able to get us crucified, get our heads sawn off or be burned alive.

Contacting your reps over this is is find, but, ultimately, the only way it will stop is if he is impeached and tried for treason. If he were white, he would have been impeached long before, but the gutless cowards in Washington are afraid of the “racist” world.


9 posted on 02/21/2015 7:04:11 AM PST by ZULU (Je Suis Charlie. . GET IT OBAMA, OR DON'T YOU??)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Q-ManRN

Thanks, I just re-upped my membership. No reason not to be members of more than one pro-freedom(gun) group.


10 posted on 02/21/2015 7:06:55 AM PST by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Q-ManRN

Figures. But they can still use their reloading equipment to make more ammo, my dad did it for years.


11 posted on 02/21/2015 7:14:47 AM PST by Patriot777 (Imagine....that we could see Obama being hauled out of the White House kicking and screaming?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Ouderkirk

Didn’t his beloved ISIS remark recently that they would come here and cut off his head? I think they have someone else in mind to be caliph...maybe some drooling camel or one of those screaming goats.


12 posted on 02/21/2015 7:16:36 AM PST by Patriot777 (Imagine....that we could see Obama being hauled out of the White House kicking and screaming?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: The Antiyuppie
It isn't armor piercing. I watch a youtube video the other day - a guy put 90, yes 90 not a typo, rounds of M855 into a chest plate at around 50 yrds. Other than knocking the anti-spall coat off the front there was no effect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2TBoP9Aoow

I was stunned at how poorly this ammo worked!

13 posted on 02/21/2015 8:16:40 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: The Antiyuppie

“If the ATF can get away with illegally banning a popular ammo round (because it can penetrate body armor), how long do you think it will be before it’s banning other popular hunting rounds — which, by the way, can also penetrate body armor!”

Yeh forget M855 the cops should be more worried about some guy shooting them with a 30-06. That will go through them, their vest and the guy behind them. So now will they try to ban that also? Its a never ending snowball.


14 posted on 02/21/2015 8:30:01 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Q-ManRN

Pick up some steel core 7.62x54r, about $100 for 440 rounds in a spam can. There are semi autos that use it, though mostly bolt action Mosins, etc.

http://www.jgsales.com/7.62x54r-comm-bloc-light-ball-fmj-ammo,-steel-core,-440rd-tin.-p-4431.html


15 posted on 02/21/2015 8:37:37 AM PST by dynachrome (Government canÂ’t give us anything that it doesnÂ’t first take away)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: stevio

Excellent! And I agree.

stevio wrote: “Thanks, I just re-upped my membership. No reason not to be members of more than one pro-freedom(gun) group.”


16 posted on 02/21/2015 9:15:05 AM PST by Q-ManRN (Progressivism is rngegressive!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: dynachrome

“spam can” Is it tough getting those cans open?
I read somewhere you had to have the top milled off.


17 posted on 02/21/2015 9:16:20 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Patriot777

True, but why should they have to do that.

Patriot777 wrote:
Figures. But they can still use their reloading equipment to make more ammo, my dad did it for years.


18 posted on 02/21/2015 9:18:44 AM PST by Q-ManRN (Progressivism is rngegressive!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Q-ManRN
But they can still use their reloading equipment to make more ammo

if you can get the bullets. Without them, it doesn't matter if you can get primers and reload the brass.

19 posted on 02/21/2015 11:24:27 AM PST by JoeFromSidney (Book RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY, available from Amazon.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: tumblindice

Some times they come with an opener, other wise a large screw driver can punch it. open along the sides, just enuff to peel it back.


20 posted on 02/21/2015 12:14:58 PM PST by dynachrome (Government canÂ’t give us anything that it doesnÂ’t first take away)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-25 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson