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What ISIS Really Wants
The Atlantic ^ | 2/15/2015 | Graeme Wood

Posted on 02/20/2015 12:35:26 PM PST by PhxRising

What is the The Islamic State, also known as the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham (ISIS)? Where did it come from, and what are its intentions? The simplicity of these questions can be deceiving, and few Western leaders seem to know the answers. In December, The New York Times published confidential comments by Major General Michael K. Nagata, the Special Operations commander for the United States in the Middle East, admitting that he had hardly begun figuring out the Islamic State’s appeal. “We have not defeated the idea,” he said. “We do not even understand the idea.” In the past year, President Obama has referred to the Islamic State, variously, as “not Islamic” and as al-Qaeda’s “jayvee team,” statements that reflected confusion about the group, and may have contributed to significant strategic errors.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: graemewood; isis; theatlantic
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To: Travis McGee

a house with a white picket fence to hang all the Severed Heads on ?


21 posted on 02/20/2015 1:01:24 PM PST by molson209 (Blank)
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To: PhxRising

ISIS is Sunni, not Shia. The article (already posted btw) makes the point that they consider Shiites apostates who must be killed.


22 posted on 02/20/2015 1:03:21 PM PST by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!")
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To: MeshugeMikey

Most Wanted FR’per by the Obama Administration:

$10,000 reward for Meshugey Mikey

For continuous and daily defamation and slandering of The Messiah and The Prophet using Photoshop....: )


23 posted on 02/20/2015 1:03:58 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: cll

Bump


24 posted on 02/20/2015 1:05:07 PM PST by cll (Serviam!)
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To: jsanders2001

they aint seen nuthin yet!!


25 posted on 02/20/2015 1:06:27 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: Michael.SF.

Nay, nay mon ami!
They want to get ahead — YOURS!!

There is NO “Radical Islam”. It’s ALL JUST Islam and, if they adhere to the teachings of Mohammed, THEY’RE ALL RADICAL because, ultimately, they ALL want kafirs (that’s us) D.E.A.D.! Get used to it!!

If you genuinely want to understand the TRUE, VIOLENT, DUALISTIC, SCHIZOPHRENIC nature of ISLAM in order to become part of a solution instead of part of the problem that spells doom for Western Civilization (and, NO, that’s not too extreme a statement), you need to spend 40 minutes with Dr. Bill Warner here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjBDDC4wVxk
(Don’t be concerned when Dr. Warner mentions that he “sells” books. Once you’re past that section, the red meat beyond is well worth the short wait.)

And this is ESPECIALLY for any antisemites who view the “Jewish Conspiracy” as the primary threat to your existence and are put off because the video was posted by a Jewish group.  Try to think of any nations conquered by violent, bloody Jewish jihad and send me their names.

After watching this presentation, if you STILL believe that Bush was correct when he called islam a “religion of peace” (it’s not a religion and it ain’t peaceful) and Obama was right when he recently declared islam morally equivalent or superior to the Christian Crusades, you are DEFINITELY a BIG part of the problem.

Gang, this is a WAR and it is one we dare not lose!


26 posted on 02/20/2015 1:07:56 PM PST by Dick Bachert (This entire "administration" has been a series of Reischstag Fires. We know how that turned out!)
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To: PhxRising

1). Mayhem
2). Murder
3). Barbarity
4). Oppression
5). A cultural u-turn
6). World domination
7). Goats
8). Young boys


27 posted on 02/20/2015 1:12:47 PM PST by IronJack
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To: Travis McGee

Do you think I could go on a crowdfunder site and raise the money to “produce” or “re-produce” my 2 cents?

A full production and modern remake of this:

Springtime for Hitler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmYIo7bcUw&list=PLPwnopWS3GHfYmAfm-8dQspWJ8kxfZOCt

I took the liberties to re-write the words:

The Caliphate’s in trouble
What a sad, sad story
We need the 12th Imam, to restore
Its former glory

Where oh where is he?
Where could that man be?
We looked around and then we found
The Jihad for you and me….. and ……..now ……..it’s

Springtime for Islam and the Middle East
Mohamed is happy.. not gay
We’re bombing at a faster pace
Look out, here comes the master race

Springtime for Islam and the Middle East
Winter for Jews at last
Springtime for Islam and the Middle East
Come now Kafirs, join us in our trance

I was born in Ali Baba
That is why they call me Ali Baba
Don’t be stupid, get respect
Come and join the winning sect

Springtime for Islam and the Middle East
Five times, the right times to pray
Swords of the martyrs will rule the day
Sharia and Islam, the only way

Springtime for Islam and the Middle East
Stonings and dhimmis once more

Springtime for Islam and the Middle East
Means that soon we’ll be going
We’ve always been going
You know we will win this war


28 posted on 02/20/2015 1:20:52 PM PST by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

> they aint seen nuthin yet!!

lol. It’s steel collars and pre-2014 vehicles for you then...: )


29 posted on 02/20/2015 1:26:17 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: sickoflibs


30 posted on 02/20/2015 1:34:52 PM PST by Iron Munro (Mark Steyn: "fundamentally transformed" is a euphemism for "wrecked beyond repair.")
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To: IronJack
Change 'goats' to animals and you can spell: O B A M M Y with the first letter of each word, Coincidence? I will leave that for George Nori to ponder, 😉
31 posted on 02/20/2015 1:43:20 PM PST by Michael.SF. (It takes a gun to feed a village (and an AK 47 to defend it).)
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To: PhxRising
What ISIS Really Wants

To make the world Islamic, by whatever means necessary.

32 posted on 02/20/2015 1:54:04 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: PhxRising

Its a very good article and has conclusions very much as I expected.


33 posted on 02/20/2015 1:55:25 PM PST by buwaya
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To: Iron Munro

Well done !!!

Monty Python - What have the romans ever done for us

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9foi342LXQE


34 posted on 02/20/2015 1:56:53 PM PST by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: jsanders2001

Obie and his Pals are just so deserving. The Tributes Must Continue!


35 posted on 02/20/2015 2:06:21 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: Iron Munro

Ha! Funny if it wasn’t so tragic.


36 posted on 02/20/2015 2:25:15 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee
Obama Reaches Out To ISI


37 posted on 02/20/2015 2:43:21 PM PST by Iron Munro (Mark Steyn: "fundamentally transformed" is a euphemism for "wrecked beyond repair.")
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To: Zeneta

You know and I know that nobody would have any interest, and quite the opposite. Remember, even a Clancy novel movie production had to change the Islamic terrorists to Euro neo-nazis. Imagine how much freedom we have already lost. God bless Mel Brooks and Gene Wilder for daring. Today they would NEVER make anything like Blazing Saddles or Springtime. Never. In fact, some of my young relatives expressed horror on their first watching of Blazing Saddles and declared it should not have been made and should not be shown. Shocking to me. They already have left-sharia-PC thought so ingrained, they totally accept the idea of “forbidden zones” and a positive view of censorship at least culturally. They are in line with PC taboos 100%. “Gay is good—or else!” for example.


38 posted on 02/20/2015 2:44:56 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Thanks for your consideration.

First of all, do you think the concept is good ?

If so, then I can’t imagine it costing more than 1 or 2 hundred grand to actually make it happen.

There’s a fine line between what people are “afraid” to do vs. the money they would get for doing it.

Personally, I think I could raise the money needed. Not at all sure about getting the right people that could pull it off.


39 posted on 02/20/2015 2:56:31 PM PST by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: Jim Robinson
RE:”ObamaPhones and free breakfast for preschoolers.”

Good point, those Islamists would make much use of those replaceable untraceable Obamaphones as well as young kids.

As usual Obama's thinking is far ahead of us being his head is so big.

40 posted on 02/20/2015 7:20:33 PM PST by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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