Posted on 02/20/2015 10:12:29 AM PST by Kaslin
For those of you who ever believed that Obama might be the messiah and your faith has been shaken, you must continue reading.
For those of you who are still true believers in the Obama messiah you can continue reading anyway.
To both groups I say: We told you so.
Obama is hopeless and he’s going to make the Democrats hopeless too if you are not careful.
We can agree to disagree about whether healthcare is a human right. We can agree to disagree about the role in government in our lives. We can agree to disagree about the size and scope of government. We can even agree to disagree about how to best engage the rest of the world to secure American interests.
But certainly we must all agree that American security under this president has been a compendium of strategic, military and foreign policy disasters.
Not since the U.S. lost China to the Communists and North Korea invaded South Korea—leading to two wars in Asia-- have American security interests been so deranged.
Not since Chamberlain gave away the Sudetenland in the former Czechoslovakia-- thereby depriving Western powers not just their only legitimate, strong military ally, but also a fortified defensive mountain position that almost certainly would have been too tough for the Wehrmacht to crack-- has civilization been in such peril.
And not only does our president refuse to see our peril, he indulges our peril by saying that the people behind ISIS: 1) need jobs and 2) have legitimate grievances.
One can not legitimately take this president seriously anymore.
Not even, you, my Democrat friends.
Everyone in society has legitimate grievances.
I am Irish. My ancestors were harassed and occupied by the British for a longer period than the Arabs lived under the British Crown.Yet somehow I find the will to go on living without beheading people, without putting them to the torch, without cutting off the genitalia of women.
In fact my surname is English, so somewhere along the line, both English and Irish learned to get along.
I am Irish. My descendants were harassed and discriminated against by white folks in this country even before Italians were.
And if you think that discrimination against me is just a relic of the 19th century, then I am Catholic too.
And within this year my salvation has been questioned publicly by Protestants who wouldn’t know Martin Luther from Martin Luther King.
Yes somehow, in all of this, I find the will to go on living without beheading people, without putting them to the torch, without cutting off the genitalia of women.
There is no negotiating with the wickedness that loots and murders. And that it is done in the name of God should heighten our fury, not diminish it; it should raise us up to righteous indignation on behalf of both God and humanity-- for the believer and unbeliever alike.
How long will you find sophisticated reasons to support, enable and encourage Obama in his delusions?
You know he’s wrong. And we do too.
Especially on ISIS. His delusions here are on full display.
And we told you so.
If the economy improves, foreign policy and security will be the death of you; if the economy does not improve you are finished anyway.
“You have sat too long here for any good you have been doing lately,” Oliver Cromwell told the Rump Parliament, “Depart, I say; and let us have done with you. In the name of God,—go!”
On, what we would think to be a thread against Obama and the Dems, the Papists couldn’t resist the chance to take a shot at Protestants.
I call them on it, enter fellow Papists “subterfuge” and “ought-six” to defend the burning at the stake precedent set by their fellow Papists in the middle ages...and with typical Papist twisted logic.
Now, the Papists apparently want to hijack this thread, it wasn’t my intent, my intent was only to raise an objection to the shot taken against Protestants...something they tries to slip in there. That’s all I have to say, have a good day.
BTTT!
Pray, tell me where I “defended the burning at the stake precedent.”
All I did was simply point out that the RCC was not the only body that burned people. Hell, the Romans used to cover prisoners with pitch and light them up to provide illumination for the night time fun and games. American Indians routinely burned captives (you should read about the Manheim twins someday; and Colonel Crawford, just to name a couple).
You are so filled with hate for Catholicism (calling Catholics “Papists” is a dead giveaway) that you can’t even see straight.
Let’s see, a Papist makes a hit on Protestants on a thread that is supposed to be about Obama and the Dems, someone calls them on it, and he is “full of hate.” I get it.
Standard fare for Papists, anyone who refuses to bow the knee to the Pope, be subservient to him, including this latest Marxist one, is a “hater.”
Anyone that utters the word, “Papist,” is also a hater, never mind that the Papacy has always been at the center of the dispute between Roman Catholicism and the Reformers: Protestants holding to Christ alone as the head of the church, Papists having the Pope of Rome the head of it.
“Papist” is not derogatory, it’s what you are... until such day that you denounce your Pope as head over the rest of us Christians, that is. If such should happen, then, and only then, will I no longer think of you a papist.
You are determined to hijack this thread in the name of the papacy, I see.
“Most other Obamatons are so blinded by pure emotion and the messianic worship they invested in hope and change they will never be convinced they were wrong.”
All those who are capable of admitting they were wrong have done so already, the rest are so hopeless they will go on exerting tremendous effort to fool THEMSELVES a little longer. There is no hope that they will fool anyone who is not already on board their train to Lala land. The “messiah” is years past his sell by date.
“HENCE, the democrats desire to get amnesty through any mean possible.”
With amnesty, they’ll be the cadre of the revolution with the messiah as its leader, just about forever.
IMHO
“It is not ISIS that is famously known for burning people alive, it is your tyrannical institution. ISIS is copying the precedent set by the RCC.”
Sounds like propaganda from the Democrat party and one of the many places that condone beheading, suicide bombing and burning of humans, all in the specious name of grievance.
(And behind it is a seething, visceral, hatred and contempt for Christianity.)
IMHO
“It is the ones who believe Hillary will do even better that get my goat.”
READY FOR HILLARY!!!!! Yayyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!
/SARCASM/
Do you mind me asking in what state or general region of the country your parents live?
I agree with you on the Islamic “seething hate for Christianity.” That’s the clear and present danger, the centuries old in house fight within Christianity between the Papacy and Protestants, not being the subject of this article. The author of this piece, however, couldn’t stay on subject, for he, or she, thought it necessary to slip in a hit against Protestants. It is the author of this piece you should direct your grievance to, not me.
Whenever you speak, something is subtracted from the sum total of human knowledge.
You are so filled with hate for Protestants (your latest post a dead giveaway) that you can’t even see straight. (From your post 23)
Pretty unlikely that African slaves embraced Mohammedanism. Being as they were captured, enslaved, and sold by them.
Wrong. Most Africans were animists, therefore ‘rightly’ taken captive. MANY captives were Muzzies but from the wrong tribe. If the hunters were Sunni, Shiites were targeted. Or wahabists, Salafalists, etc. There is a painting from the 1600’s(?) of an old Muzzie slave done by a well known painter (to everybody but me)that explains he was one of the first Muzzies known to be in the country.
Andrew Wyeth?
Ironic that Oliver Cromwell was protestant.
You’re nuts. I’m a Christian, and am more Protestant than Catholic.
Obama says he’s Christian, if he was truly was, he wouldn’t be making the statements he makes for Muslims.
Similarly yourself, if you were a true Protestant, you wouldn’t be saying such squishy things as, “I am more Protestant than Catholic.” And you wouldn’t be flaming me for saying the things I did against the Papacy, rather, you would be agreeing with me.
Obama can’t come out clearly for one or the other, Christianity or Islam, he can’t be both. Likewise yourself. Why is it you can’t say you are one or the other, Protestant or Catholic?
I did, fool. I said I was CHRISTIAN. One can be a Christian and not be 100% Protestant or 100% Catholic. Indeed, a Christian can be either or neither, or any combination of the two.
For sh!ts and grins, please explain to the thread your visceral hatred of Catholicism. Did you pine for a young girl in a Catholic school uniform, and were rebuffed? Is that it? Did some Catholic school football team clobber the living crap out of your public school eleven? Hell, boy: Those things have happened to most everybody, but virtually no one else is consumed by hate because of it. And I know scores of Catholics who have had the same experience re: a non-Catholic girl, and non-Catholic football teams. But they aren’t consumed by hate because of it.
In all candor, you may need professional help.
You said:
I did, fool. I said I was CHRISTIAN. One can be a Christian and not be 100% Protestant or 100% Catholic. Indeed, a Christian can be either or neither, or any combination of the two… please explain to the thread your visceral hatred of Catholicism.
Me:
I, too, am concerned for those who read this thread. Which is why I am going to post what this fellow says… shortened and edited a bit here and there by me. This piece is about the kind of liberal “half-way house” system of belief, you, and so many others nowadays have bought into:
“You may not like this. You may think me uncharitable, narrow-minded, bigoted, and so forth: be it so….I feel it a duty to bear my solemn testimony against the spirit of the day you live in.
It is not the system which says nothing is true, so much as the system which says everything is true that will damn people’s souls;
it is not the system which says there is no Saviour, so much as the system which says there are many saviors and many ways to God that will damn people’s souls.
It is the system which is so liberal that it dares not say anything is false; it is the system which is so charitable that it will allow everything to be true that will damn people’s souls.
It is the system which honors others as well as our Lord Jesus Christ, class them all together, and speaks well of them all. Confucius and Zoroaster, Socrates and Mohammed, the Indian Brahmins and the African devil-worshippers, Arius and Pelagius, Ignatius Loyola and Socinus, — all must be spoken of respectfully: none are to be condemned, that will damn people’s souls.
It is the system which bids us smile complacently on all creeds and systems of religion: the Bible and the Koran, the Hindu Vedus and the Persian Zendavesta, the old wives’ fables of Rabbinical Judaism and the rubbish of Patristic traditions, THE PAPACY AND ITS TRADITIONS and the book of Mormon of Joseph Smith, — all are truth: none are to be denounced as lies.
It is the system so liberal, so scrupulous about the feelings of others, that we are never to say it is wrong; it is the system that calls a man a bigot if he dares to say, “Let the word of God be true, and every man a liar.” This is the system which I desire emphatically to testify against and denounce.
What is it but a bowing down before a great idol called liberality? What is it all but a sacrificing of truth upon the altar of a caricature of charity? Beware of it, reader, beware that the rushing stream of public opinion does not carry you away.
Beware of it, if you believe the Bible… Has the Lord God spoken to us in the Bible, or has He not? Has He shown us truth plainly in the Bible, or has He not? Has He declared to us the dangerous state of those who bow at the altar of liberalism?
Gird up the loins of your mind, and look these questions fairly in the face, and give them an honest answer. Tell us that there is some other inspired book beside the Bible, and then we shall know what you mean; tell us that the whole Bible is not inspired, and then we shall know where to meet you.
But grant us for a moment that the Bible, the whole Bible, and nothing but the Bible, is God’s truth., and then I know not in what way you can escape the doctrine of the text.
From the liberality which says everybody is right, from the charity which forbids you to say others are wrong, from the peace which is bought at the expense of truth, — may the good Lord deliver you!
I FIND NO RESTING PLACE BETWEEN EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANITY AND INFIDELITY, whatever others may find. I SEE NO HALF-WAY HOUSE BETWEEN THEM.
I can see consistency in an infidel, however much I may pity him; I can see consistency in the full maintenance of Evangelical truth: BUT AS TO A MIDDLE COURSE BETWEEN THE TWO,—I CANNOT SEE IT; and I say so plainly.
Let it be called illiberal and uncharitable. I can hear God’s voice nowhere except in the Bible. Outside of it, I hear none.”
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