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In Bid to Allow Guns on Campus, Weapons Are Linked to Fighting Sexual Assault
The New York Times ^ | 18 Feb 2015 | ALAN SCHWARZ

Posted on 02/18/2015 9:19:30 AM PST by Theoria

As gun rights advocates push to legalize firearms on college campuses, an argument is taking shape: Arming female students will help reduce sexual assaults.

Support for so-called campus-carry laws had been hard to muster despite efforts by proponents to argue that armed students and faculty members could prevent mass shootings like the one at Virginia Tech in 2007. The carrying of concealed firearms on college campuses is banned in 41 states by law or by university policy. Carrying guns openly is generally not permitted.

But this year, lawmakers in 10 states who are pushing bills that would permit the carrying of firearms on campus are hoping that the national spotlight on sexual assault will help them win passage of their measures.

“If you’ve got a person that’s raped because you wouldn’t let them carry a firearm to defend themselves, I think you’re responsible,” State Representative Dennis K. Baxley of Florida said during debate in a House subcommittee last month. The bill passed.

The sponsor of a bill in Nevada, Assemblywoman Michele Fiore, said in a telephone interview: “If these young, hot little girls on campus have a firearm, I wonder how many men will want to assault them. The sexual assaults that are occurring would go down once these sexual predators get a bullet in their head.”

In addition to those in Florida and Nevada, bills that would allow guns on campus have been introduced in Indiana, Montana, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas and Wyoming.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; college; guns

1 posted on 02/18/2015 9:19:30 AM PST by Theoria
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To: marktwain

ping


2 posted on 02/18/2015 9:19:43 AM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: Theoria

Yeah, drunk girls with guns at the frat party....what could go wrong?


3 posted on 02/18/2015 9:21:16 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: proxy_user
Yeah, drunk girls with guns at the frat party....what could go wrong?
4 posted on 02/18/2015 9:22:09 AM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: Theoria
an argument is taking shape: Arming female students will help reduce sexual assaults

Alan, you're an idiot.
Self defense is self defense, no matter what the assault is. There is no "taking shape" to this argument.

5 posted on 02/18/2015 9:23:22 AM PST by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: Theoria

Which leads us to the conclusion that the real problem is drunken parties, not rape and not guns.


6 posted on 02/18/2015 9:23:27 AM PST by proxy_user
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7 posted on 02/18/2015 9:23:54 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Theoria

Every woman should be armed! The incidents of rape would drop dramatically!

Besides, the Dems are the ones claiming that “1 in 5 women on campus are raped” statements. Those numbers would make the rate of rape on US campuses to be higher than the height of the rawandan civil war!

Yet they also want the victims to be unable to protect themselves....War on women...


8 posted on 02/18/2015 9:26:39 AM PST by CSM
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No.

Alchohol, drugs or not. People will do bad things. Everyone has the right to defend themselves. Just as everyone should use the right judgement in not placing themselves in ‘stupid’ situations.

9 posted on 02/18/2015 9:26:56 AM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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red herring, IMO ... analyze the picture your statement draws ... girls drunk at a frat party went there to get drunk ... so they WOULD have an exciting story of SOME kind

The "rapes" seem to be more bunk than real (not saying it doesn't happen .. )

So a law that allows for girls to carry is, IMO ... one of the safest things for a girl

The worst that could/would happen (again, IMO .. ) is a feminazi go berserk ... in which case ... she will be found out and the law will (should) not be touched

I think it's a good argument for a good reason

10 posted on 02/18/2015 9:27:13 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but, they're true)
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To: proxy_user

Yeah, girl walking alone at 3 am from the library back to her dorm. What could go wrong?


11 posted on 02/18/2015 9:27:57 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Theoria

—surprising that the NYT didn’t put more of an anti-firearms slant on this —so soon after their hit piece on concealed carry—


12 posted on 02/18/2015 9:40:28 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: Theoria
Other objectors to the bills say that advocates of the campus-carry laws, predominantly Republicans with well-established pro-gun stances, are merely exploiting a hot-button issue.

In contrast to anti-gun democrats, who NEVER exploit a hot-button issue...

13 posted on 02/18/2015 9:52:09 AM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: Theoria

Since it’s the slimes, I didn’t click for the rest of the story, but here’s my (semi) educated guess. Later on it implies that those young hot girls are not capable of or comfortable with carrying a weapon. Tell me again who is fighting a war on women?


14 posted on 02/18/2015 10:03:37 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Theoria

The movement to restore 2a rights to college campuses is much older than all of this sexual assault business. The left refuses to research and stick to the truth.


15 posted on 02/18/2015 10:22:25 AM PST by ConservativeInPA (#JuSuisCharlesMartel)
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To: ConservativeInPA

“The left refuses to research and stick to the truth.”

They never worry about the truth for other issues, why would they do it for this one?


16 posted on 02/18/2015 11:18:27 AM PST by marktwain
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To: Theoria

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17 posted on 02/18/2015 2:02:30 PM PST by Dr. Prepper
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To: marktwain

If they stuck to the truth they wouldn’t be leftists.


18 posted on 02/18/2015 2:02:30 PM PST by Dr. Prepper
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To: Theoria
It sounds like a generally good idea for all students with concealed carry permits to be armed. Armed students have already helped stop a massacre by a lunatic on one USA college campus. Another concern is how to protect yourselves from a sexually deviant uniformed and deputized State authorized campus policeman. When this uniformed pervert, part of the official State police system, makes it clear that he wishes to psychologically castrate all the men of the campus community, how can students and parents protect themselves? Certainly the pervert campus policeman is not going to deny himself or his friends sexual license.

Are these college campuses even centers of learning anymore? Should brick and mortar campuses be closed down and education moved online for safety's sake?


19 posted on 02/21/2015 4:09:38 AM PST by magooey (The Mandate of Heaven resides in the hearts of men.)
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