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ObamaCare fans: SCOTUS case 'unraveling'
The Hill ^ | Feb. 13. 2015 | Sarah Ferris

Posted on 02/13/2015 7:27:35 AM PST by Maceman

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To: Maceman
Other information that has emerged on the plaintiffs — such as reports that they have called Obama the “anti-Christ” and “the idiot in the White House” — also hasno relevance, legal experts said.

But that is relevant. Calling “the idiot in the White House” exactly that demonstrates the credibility of the plaintiffs. We know we can trust them to tell the truth.

21 posted on 02/13/2015 7:50:30 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Apparently, in this case, the word that will make or break the case is “such.”

http://www.nationaljournal.com/health-care/the-one-word-that-could-save-obamacare-20150208


22 posted on 02/13/2015 7:59:33 AM PST by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: Little Ray

Standing is a bygone issue as the Court has granted cert.


23 posted on 02/13/2015 8:03:02 AM PST by Bidimus1
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To: God luvs America

Ah, but there’s the rub. As long as a law hurts everybody, nobody has “particularized” harm and thus nobody has standing.

IOW, when practicing tyranny, go big - because if you harm everybody, our judicial system says you actually harm nobody.

It’s absolutely nutso.


24 posted on 02/13/2015 8:12:16 AM PST by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/ g g)
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To: Little Ray

They are attempting to obfuscate by claiming there is ambiguity where none exists.


25 posted on 02/13/2015 8:12:34 AM PST by Ray76 (Obama says, "Unlike my mum, Ruth has all the documents needed to prove who Mark's father was.")
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To: God luvs America

but would they be allowed to be added to the complaint at this stage or would the suit need to be re initiated?


26 posted on 02/13/2015 8:12:52 AM PST by wiggen (#JeSuisCharlie)
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To: exit82

New Rules: no one has standing for anything at any time.

And their New Rule #2: no judge need recuse himself for any conflict of interest at any time. We have two Supreme Court Justices who are homosexual activists, who have officiated in homosexual "marriages", sitting on the bench prepared to redefine the word "marriage" for the nation. Don't count on them recusing themselves. They have no integrity, no honor, and no respect for the law. It's time to disbar them.


27 posted on 02/13/2015 9:20:50 AM PST by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Maceman

ObamaCare = Illegal


28 posted on 02/13/2015 9:23:05 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Maceman

They wish. SCOTUS has already determined the plaintiffs have standing.


29 posted on 02/13/2015 9:26:45 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Little Ray

I don’t ever trust the court after Roberts twisted version the first time it wound up there. I don’t think they’ll throw out the subsidies and with them Obamacare. IF they do it would truly shock me.


30 posted on 02/13/2015 9:29:28 AM PST by sheana
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To: Little Ray
A quick review of PPACA shows that "such" is a very overused word.

More to the point though is that they're really grasping at straws. Their claim is based on SEC. 1321 (c)(1)(B)(ii)(II) of the PPACA, part of which I've highlighted.

(c) FAILURE TO ESTABLISH EXCHANGE OR IMPLEMENT REQUIREMENTS.—
  (1) IN GENERAL.—If—
     (A) a State is not an electing State under subsection (b); or
     (B) the  Secretary  determines,  on  or  before  January 1, 2013, that an electing State—
        (i) will not have any required Exchange operational by January 1, 2014; or
        (ii) has not taken the actions the Secretary deter- mines necessary to implement—
               (I) the other requirements set forth in the standards under subsection (a); or
               (II) the requirements set forth in subtitles A and C and the amendments made by such sub- titles;
               the Secretary shall (directly or through agreement with a not- for-profit entity) establish and 
               operate such Exchange within the State and the Secretary shall take such actions as are
               necessary to implement such other requirements.
The Secretary shall establish such Exchange, "such" meaning an Exchange within a State. If a State did not establish an Exchange then the Secretary shall establish an Exchange within the State that did not establish such an Exchange.

At issue is whether the IRS, by providing tax credits to those who enrolled through Federally established and operated exchanges, violated the law.

SEC. 1401(a) In General.--Subpart C of part IV of subchapter A of chapter 1 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 (relating to refundable credits) is amended by inserting after section 36A the following new section:

SEC. 36B (a) In General.--In the case of an applicable taxpayer, there shall be allowed 
             as a credit against the tax imposed by this subtitle for any taxable year 
             an amount equal to the premium assistance credit amount of the taxpayer for
             the taxable year.

         (b) Premium Assistance Credit Amount.--For purposes of this section--
        
             (1) In general.-- <> The term `premium assistance 
                 credit amount' means, with respect to any taxable year, the sum 
                 of the premium assistance amounts determined under paragraph (2)
                 with respect to all coverage months of the taxpayer occurring 
                 during the taxable year.
 
             (2) Premium assistance amount.--The premium assistance amount determined
                 under this subsection with respect to any coverage month is the amount
                 equal to the lesser of--

                    ``(A) the monthly premiums for such month for 1 or more 
                          qualified health plans offered in the individual   
                          market within a State which cover the taxpayer, the 
                          taxpayer's spouse, or any dependent (as defined in 
                          section 152) of the taxpayer and which were enrolled in 
                          through an Exchange established by the State under 1311 
                          of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, or

                    ``(B) the excess (if any) of--
                           ``(i) the adjusted monthly premium for such 
                                 month for the applicable second lowest cost silver 
                                 plan with respect to the taxpayer, over
                          ``(ii) an amount equal to 1/12 of the product 
                                 of the applicable percentage and the taxpayer's 
                                 household income for the taxable year.
SEC. 36B(b)(2)(A) of the IRS code clearly states "Exchange established by the State". It does not say "Exchange established within the State".

SEC. 1321 (c)(1)(B)(ii)(II) of the PPACA clearly states "the Secretary shall [ ] establish and operate such Exchange within the State"

Their claim reeks of desperation. This is a pathetic attempt to generate an ambiguity where none exists.

Regarding the tax credits:

36B(b)(2) specifies the premium assistance amount is equal to the lesser of SEC. 36B(b)(2)(A) or SEC. 36B(b)(2)(B).

SEC. 36B(b)(2)(A) is explicitly specified as applying to an Exchange established by the State under 1311.

For SEC. 36B(b)(2)(B) to be given effect SEC. 36B(b)(2)(B) must necessarily also refer to Exchanges established by the State under 1311, otherwise 36B(b)(2) would be meaningless because a taxpayer can not be enrolled in both a state and federal exchange and whichever is the lesser amount applies.

The proposition that SEC. 36B(b)(2)(A) “Exchange established by the State under 1311" includes “Exchange established by the Federal government under 1321" is absurd. Equally ridiculous is that “Exchange established by the State under 1311 simply be read out of SEC. 36B(b)(2)(A).

Courts would have to do one or the other, introduce absurdities or read out of the statute clauses, in order for the act to satisfy what an agency, the IRS, claims is Congress’ intent. The law is not ambiguous or unreasonable, Congress’ intent is clear. There are no "errors" for the judiciary to correct.

The court can not reconstruct a statute to satisfy an agency’s claim.

The act explicitly provides tax credits for Exchanges established by the State and excludes tax credits for Exchanges established by the Federal government.

31 posted on 02/13/2015 10:15:33 AM PST by Ray76 (Obama says, "Unlike my mum, Ruth has all the documents needed to prove who Mark's father was.")
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To: Maceman

Anybody who thinks our gay-marriage friends on the Court are not going to affirm Obamacare (again) is dreaming.


32 posted on 02/13/2015 10:39:01 AM PST by madprof98
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