Coating the Deadliest Catch’s Cornelia Marie

Marine Link ^ | February 11, 2015 | Greg Trauthwein

[artichokegrower]

Boat owner Josh Harris and captain Casey McManus, leaders of the commercial crab fishing boat Cornelia Marie made famous on the Discovery Channel’s hit show Deadliest Catch, discuss with Maritime Reporter & Engineering News the decision to protect their vessel with Sherwin-Williams marine coatings.

[artichokegrower]

Having watched Deadliest Catch for many seasons and observing life aboard the Cornelia Marie I think the biggest painting task will be the prep work required to get the cigarette smoke off of the bulkheads.

[SWAMPSNIPER]

http://youtu.be/UHhMyc4uvKg

[Viking2002]

Phil certainly was Ol’ Furnace Face. (I smoked two packs a day for thirty years, so I get a pass on that one.)

[PROCON]

I love “Deadliest Catch”, please don’t turn this into a smoke Nazi thread.

[mmichaels1970]

Love the show. I was an Alaskan crab fisherman back before it was cool. The job is hell and everything always needs to be repainted.

[rlmorel]

LOL, I didn’t take his post that way...having been in the Navy back in the day when it wasn’t a crime and being the son of a career Navy guy, I thought I knew exactly what this guy meant about the smoke!

Of course, the first thing I thought about when he said “prep work” was being on a ship where a bunch of sailors are chipping paint off of metal bulkheads or the hull...the sound is absolutely maddening! Hungover, even worse!

“TINK!...TINK!...TINK!...TINK!...TINK!...TINK!...TINK!...TINK!...TINK!...”

[IMTOFT]

I’m a chemist with 30 years in polymer synthesis for coatings and coatings formulations - they should be using Hempel coatings. Having competed against both over the years, S-W sucks, Hempel is the best marine coatings company overall. I’ve never worked for them, but I have extensively evaluated their products and they always came out on top...

I always tell my wife that, after obtaining an advanced chemistry degree and working in the polymer/coatings industry my entire careers, it’s not really sexy, the world needs ditch diggers, too, I’m a ditch digger in chemistry...and I’ve loved every minute...coatings are fun...

[tumblindice]

Anyone know if the younger brother Jake kicked his substance addiction? I remember the show where he had to pull his own tooth with pliers, tough kid.

[al baby]

Yes it does interlude for me and the old anti fouling was far superior to the crap out today

[BlueDragon]

I was an Alaskan crab fisherman back before it was cool.

Out of almost thirty years of fishing, back in '87 I did one season on the Isafjord.

Remember that boat?

Speaking of needing repainting, the so-called "tool room" of the Isafjord, at the back of the house on the starboard side corner, not far the hauler, was nothing but rust back when when I was there.

I doubt Sherwin Williams makes a paint which could cover that. But Devoe used to. Bar Rust 231. It was designed as tank coating primer.

Still, for rust, the only thing to do is remove it all, right down to shiny metal. Nothing else really works, but a lot of things (treatments & paints) can slow the rust process. Some better than others, along with how well things are prepped.

I thank the same god who invented duct tape for having invented sand-blasters.

Speaking of tape...as general marine advice (worth possibly more than it's being paid for) for anyone contemplating such things as 'boat' (otherwise known as "break out another $thousand$) and rust (it never sleeps, as Neil) try to avoid using tape (or even twine) for securing antenna cables and other wiring to masts and booms.

Water will get underneath, not dry out -- and then cause rust -- right at those places tape or twine is used.

And no...please nobody ask me how I know this. Names were changed to protect the (not) innocent.

[BlueDragon]

Interlude? That's Benjamin Moore house paint.

Perhaps you meant Interlux?

So you waz a yachtsman were you?

One of my favorite drinking establishments had a sign that read "we do not serve yachtsmen".

The bar was owned by Howie O'Daniels, and after he died, one of his sons. I think the boat is now a goner? It was in bad shape, years ago, but was good enough to make a showing in this race, 1979 (according to the photo).

[Kenny Bunk]

......for rust, the only thing to do is remove it all, right down to shiny metal.....

Outa Date, Dragon. Various compounds containing Pyrogallic Acid convert rust .....Ferrous Oxide .... into Stannous Oxide .... in effect, tin-plating the rusted metal into a stable base for priming with coal tar epoxy or somesuch and painting.

Not a totally permanent cure, but plenty good enough for between paint jobs. If it's scabby, flaky rust, some mild sandblasting or soda blasting is OK, and the treatment actually works better if the metal is wet with fresh water. The blaster is a great way to find out if there is enough structurally useful metal left to paint!

Pyrogallic Acid, or other members of the chemical family can be obtained from oak barks and other natural sources, or brewed up synthetically.

Now for the duct tape. Us modern young fellows prefer speedy ties in their infinite variety. Duct tape should be on every commercial fishing vessel, though. It is the only known cure for the inevitable psychotic episodes among the crew.

[CaptainPhilFan]

Thanks for posting. I’ve been watching DC since the beginning. It’s slipping, but it’s been a great show.

I wonder how Jake is doing and this reminds me to say a prayer for him. My daughter is in love with a hopefully-recovering addict so I judge but don’t condemn. I think addiction is an actual demon that possesses one’s body.

But - Glad to see Josh keeping on; Captain Phil would be proud.

Omagosh, my screen is getting blurry remembering the death of Captain Phil. The event coverage was so well done by the show. I sure hope he found Jesus before he passed.

[BlueDragon]

Outa Date, Dragon. Various compounds containing Pyrogallic Acid convert rust .....Ferrous Oxide .... into Stannous Oxide .... in effect, tin-plating the rusted metal into a stable base for priming with coal tar epoxy or somesuch and painting.

That's good to know. In the past I've tried a lot of things, and gave up on Ospho other than to give the bad coffee a little kick, you know?

Now for the duct tape. Us modern young fellows prefer speedy ties in their infinite variety.

Zip ties are good. But a big one around the mast is likely not all that great...can trap water in similar ways, but a semi-loose final binding could help make that less of a problem...maybe.

Once one has a trunk of wires, then the next ones go where? Oh, right, zip tied to the trunk.

Duct tape should be on every commercial fishing vessel, though. It is the only known cure for the inevitable psychotic episodes among the crew.

Never heard of that use, but I'll keep it in mind.

Some crews should pack their own, just in case the skipper wigs (ok, some of them are always wigging, so it can be hard to tell, so there is that problem...)

Back when we could get the good stuff (good duct tape, that is) among other things I'd use strips about 1/3 of a roll wide instead of a band-aid. Sometimes also I'd tape up my finger joints before doing a lot of net work, specially if it involved light nylon twines, like say, 21 thread or under. Pulling and tugging on the small strings all day long could eventually cut into skin.

On another note, not "psychotic episode" but the "just never learned how to roll out of the rack and have one's feet land in the boots when it's time to pick up (the trawl)" problem --- I had a guy tell me once that tying a moderately long buoy line (small stuff like 1/2, or 9/16 poly) to a five gallon bucket, the other end to a guy's sleeping bag -- then dropping the bucket off the stern, is one way to cure the lack of ability for having one's feet land in the boots near instantaneously...though I admit to more than once engaging the winches while wearing nothing but my skivvies and deck slippers, and that's without ever having found myself unceremoniously (and rather mechanically) dragged out of the rack, just to watch my blankie go bye-bye.

Over the long years I fished on bottomfish trawlers, I became well enough acquainted with the "run out there in one's boxer shorts" when the gear hangs up routine, I'd grab my smokes on the way out.

Skipper comes out...sees me in my underwear, asks me (as I'm spooling cable) "what are you doing?" I tell him "I'm smoking a cigarette, wtf do you think I'm doing?"

[mmichaels1970]

On another note, not "psychotic episode" but the "just never learned how to roll out of the rack and have one's feet land in the boots when it's time to pick up (the trawl)" problem

Never landed in my boots, but I remember going to extensive lengths to duct tape my raingear around them to try to keep the freezing water out.

We had a processing plant onboard so we could catch the crab, butcher it, cook it, brine it, pack it, and store it boxed and ready to go. None of this namby pamby catch it and simply toss it into the hold. We'd have to work around two large tanks of boiling water and about six freezing brine tanks....with 400lb cages of crab on winches swaying to and fro.

Inevitably, the first thing that would happen prior to pulling an 18 hour shift would be to step out into the processing plant area and have your boots immediately fill up with ice cold salt water. It would make those 18 hours seem infinitely longer.

[mad_as_he$$]

Most paint mfgs will not warranty adhesion if you soda blast. Dry ice blasting is the current state of the art.

[BlueDragon]

The Isafjord had a processing shack.

Were you one the Pengwin, or something?

[mmichaels1970]

Were you one the Pengwin, or something?

I was on the Olympic. We worked for Deep Sea Fisheries based out of Fisherman's Terminal in Seattle. I've tried to find out whatever happened to the Olympic. I heard she sunk. But, I haven't been able to dig anything up about her.

[mmichaels1970]

The Olympic sort of looked like the "Alaskan Enterprise". I think we were a bit smaller though. Maybe 110-120ft.

[BlueDragon]

Looks like it was once possibly an oil field work boat.

The Isafjord (under a different name) was formerly an offshore supply boat, a.k.a. mudboat (would carry drilling muds, drill pipe, casings, fresh water, diesel fuel, and whatever else).

170 ft., carried more than 300 7 by's.