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$386M allegedly missing, as investors fear bitcoin Ponzi
CNBC ^ | 2015 February 08 | Everett Rosenfeld

Posted on 02/09/2015 8:26:35 PM PST by CutePuppy

Hong Kong-based bitcoin exchange MyCoin has allegedly shut its doors and stolen HKD 3 billion ($386.9 million) in the process.

The South China Morning Post reported Monday that 30 MyCoin clients approached a local lawmaker with complaints that the company had fled with funds from up to 3,000 investors.

The reports coming out of Hong Kong would seem to indicate that there may have been a Ponzi scheme at play.

"No one seems to know who is behind this," a woman surnamed Lau, who said she lost HKD 1.3 million, told the paper. "Everyone says they, too, are victims ... but we were told by those at higher tiers [of the scheme] that we can get our money back if we find more new clients."

One warning sign of a pending collapse could have been that when the company changed its trading rules to bar people from exchanging all of their bitcoins unless they solicited new investors for the firm. ..... < snip >

..... According to the SCMP, MyCoin had hosted events at luxury hotels and a roadshow in Macau in 2014. .....


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ballandchain; bitcoin; blockchain; hongkong; mycoin; ponzi; scheme
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1 posted on 02/09/2015 8:26:36 PM PST by CutePuppy
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To: CutePuppy
From Bitcoin's rough start to the year may get worse - CNBC, by Nyshka Chandran, 2015 February 08


2 posted on 02/09/2015 8:27:20 PM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: CutePuppy

Cyber money? What could go wrong?


3 posted on 02/09/2015 8:31:31 PM PST by Sasparilla (If you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: Sasparilla

I have unlimited virtual wealth and it multiplies every night. Everytime I open my word processor and I add another zero or two.

I’m going to buy my own Caribbean island.


4 posted on 02/09/2015 8:34:26 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Sasparilla

My thoughts the first time I read about “Bitcoins.”


5 posted on 02/09/2015 8:39:18 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (Just say to NO Rhinos in 2016.)
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To: CutePuppy

There is (I think) a need for something like Bitcoin, because I believe there is no freedom without financial privacy. Financial privacy is an essential component to freedom.

But for Bitcoin or any equivalent to go mainstream there is a need for something like the equivalent to escrow or title insurance (in real estate) that verifies the transaction so that people cannot be defrauded with impunity. Obviously it needs to be real time or very nearly real time as well.

The anonymity of the system makes it hard to have any recourse if you open your account and the money is missing.

Where did it go? No one knows. There needs to be some way to verify and insure a transaction without giving up anonymity or the system is never going to be reliable. If your account isn’t safe, then the system has no value. But if you give up anonymity in order to have safety, then the system has no value. In my view... I’m interested in other points of view, though.

I admit I know only the vaguest details of how Bitcoin operates.


6 posted on 02/09/2015 8:46:11 PM PST by marron
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To: CutePuppy
Well at least they were more inventive than the Nigerian schemes :)
7 posted on 02/09/2015 8:51:18 PM PST by The Cajun (Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert....Nuff said.)
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To: Sasparilla

DON’T WORRY!

I’ve been assured by Bitcoin enthusiasts on FreeRepublic that the cyber currency is essentially immune to fraud and theft!

They also assured me that, unless I got aboard the bitcoin bandwagon, I would lose my job as an IT executive because I *clearly* didn’t understand technology. (Funny... I’m still employed...)


8 posted on 02/09/2015 8:57:35 PM PST by bolobaby
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To: Sasparilla

9 posted on 02/09/2015 8:57:59 PM PST by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: marron

I guess the only reason Bitcoin is even remotely interesting to people is that banking secrecy has been destroyed in recent years.


10 posted on 02/09/2015 8:59:02 PM PST by marron
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To: CutePuppy

Remember Mt. Gaaak!


11 posted on 02/09/2015 8:59:35 PM PST by 867V309 (Boehner is the new Pelosi)
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nobody saw that coming


12 posted on 02/09/2015 9:01:47 PM PST by stranger and pilgrim
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To: bolobaby

Bitcoin is subject to extreme counter party risk.


13 posted on 02/09/2015 9:03:58 PM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: Errant

Ping.


14 posted on 02/09/2015 9:07:29 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: marron

But that's exactly the idea behind the blockchain, which is the heart and soul, sine qua non of Bitcoin. It's often described as "brilliant" yet it has many problems of its own (one of which is that it also serves as a "ball and chain") for escrow/verification of transactions. It doesn't do much against theft or accidental loss.

But that's the point - essentially, what you want is the "privacy, safety, convenience/freedom" (a little twist on "good, fast and cheap" trilemma™) - pick two of the three!ul

15 posted on 02/09/2015 9:08:45 PM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: stranger and pilgrim
Right! A currency based on nothing, accounted for by nobodies, misrepresented as anonymous, and ultimately worth zero.


16 posted on 02/09/2015 9:13:28 PM PST by 867V309 (Boehner is the new Pelosi)
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To: CutePuppy

Juniper Research argues that such claims will likely see bitcoin struggle to gain traction beyond a tech-savvy and libertarian demographic.

...

How about Anarchists? Where Libertarians are found, so too are Anarchists. And since I’m on the subject, how about criminals? Well, I think the article answers that one.


17 posted on 02/09/2015 9:14:18 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: CutePuppy

I feel bad for the people who got taken. But seriously, from the first I heard of it every alarm bell in my head was going off. I don’t claim any brilliant foresight, it just seemed really dodgy to me.


18 posted on 02/09/2015 9:15:34 PM PST by NRx
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To: Moonman62

I think the article covers criminals and libertarians and assumes that anarchists fall into one or both of these categories?


19 posted on 02/09/2015 9:20:01 PM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: Jonty30
I’m going to buy my own virtual Caribbean island.
20 posted on 02/09/2015 9:20:52 PM PST by FredZarguna (O, Reason not the need.)
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