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I recently came across a Democrat political group that bills itself as being pro-Second Amendment organization. However, when I examined their rhetoric closely, they are firmly against what the Second Amendment protects.

We begin our examination with the statement “Like almost every Democrat, I also support the Second Amendment and the fundamental right to bear arms.” The fact is that most Democrats staunchly believe that only law enforcement officers or soldiers on the battlefield should be legally allowed to carry guns. The author of the article above affirms this very idea rhetorically asking “Isn’t it just possible that we would be better served by training and hiring more police officers to ensure our domestic tranquility than by each house in America becoming an armed fortress?”

Next we are told that “I also believe in common sense legislation to restrict felons and the mentally ill from possessing firearms.” There is a liberal buzz phrase “common sense”. Yet, it is common sense that we already have laws that make it illegal for felons and the dangerously deranged to possess or use firearms. Nevertheless, it is obvious that some of those folks disobey those laws and get guns by criminal means for criminal purposes.

Then, we move on to “I support laws that require background checks and limit access to high explosives.” Once more, we already have laws requiring background checks and we still have criminals with guns because those guns are obtained through illegal means. I also know many reasonable people with common sense and none of them are trying to obtain explosives.

We could look at the so-called “War on Drugs” when discussing the idea that “common sense legislation” will keep criminals from getting guns. Every day people are arrested for possessing or distributing dangerous drugs that are commonly known to be illegal; however, those same laws have not kept illegal drugs out of the hands of criminals. Here is something to consider: laws do not stop people who choose to disobey the law. For example, how many of us can honestly say that we have never exceeded the legal speed limit? Exceeding the speed limit has certainly led to frequent tragedy. And as anyone who has driven a car can tell you, there is no shortage of willful speeders on the road.

We are reassured with “Surely, responsible gun owners like myself can see that a gun in every car, guns in every bar, guns in every business parking lot, guns in every church, guns at little league ball games, and guns at political rallies create a dangerous and unstable situation.” If the gun owners in these settings are truly responsible people, then their presence should not “create a dangerous and unstable situation.” Responsible hard-working decent people do not have shootouts in crowded bars or little league ball games or in churches.

These statements also include the obligatory rant against the NRA and the Republican Party who are referred to as villains that falsely label Democrats as gun grabbers. The fact that Democrat-run states like New York, Connecticut and California have seized guns from lawful gun owners like veterans simply never gets mentioned. Nor is there any mention of the fact that Democrat-run cities like Chicago work tirelessly to restrict law-abiding citizens from getting or using guns while criminals are gunning people down on a daily basis.

Or we could look at the Democrat-led city of New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina. Those residents that stayed to protect their homes discovered that the police would readily confiscate their firearms during the day, but the police pulled out of the city at night while criminal gangs robbed and terrorized the city.

The article’s author tells us that “I firmly believe that we, the responsible gun owners of Tennessee of every political persuasion, can come together and find a way to possess guns for protection and sport and still severely limit the abilities of criminals, terrorists, and crazy people to possess the killing machine of their choice.” Responsible gun owners can come together, but only if we are free from oppressive government legislation that limits only those people who obey the law. Criminals, terrorists and crazy people do not concern themselves with the law; thus, more laws do not limit them because they choose to act outside the confines of the law as demonstrated recently by the recent terrorist attack on French newspaper Charlie Hebdo.

France has very strict gun control laws, but those laws did not stop the terrorists from obtaining and using machine guns in the street and in the newspaper’s office. Those gun control laws did leave the staff of Charlie Hebdo, nearby citizens and even an unarmed police officer completely unable to defend themselves.

Consider the concept of defending yourself while reading the following excerpt, “Isn’t it just possible that we would be better served by training and hiring more police officers to ensure our domestic tranquility than by each house in America becoming an armed fortress? Responsible gun owners recognize that law enforcement by our police is better than vigilante actions by individuals.” The statement above reflects the Democrats answer to every problem: more government to do for you so that you do not have to do for yourself. If the government just had more police, every family and every household in America would be perfectly safe! Bull! No government in the history of the world has successfully defended every citizen or eradicated crime.

Finally, the Democrat author calls the act of defending yourself with a firearm a “vigilante action” because the police can defend you better. Try telling that to the staff of Charlie Hebdo. Liberal Democrats have never grasped that law enforcement in a free society takes place after laws have already been broken by arresting criminals and getting them off the streets. While this service is vital to protecting society, it does not help to protect victims of crime.

Therefore, the person who is best equipped to defend you is you, not the government. Beware of these Democrat supposedly pro-gun groups whose real purpose is to push more gun control by appearing to be on both sides of the debate.

1 posted on 02/08/2015 8:31:56 AM PST by Q-ManRN
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Is this a joke?


2 posted on 02/08/2015 8:35:59 AM PST by farming pharmer
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““Like almost every Democrat, I also support the Second Amendment”

Almost? Stopped reading there..


3 posted on 02/08/2015 8:36:21 AM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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restrict felons and the mentally ill from possessing firearms.”

If the author was serious, he would be calling for the mass disarmament of Hollywood, Liberals, Democrats, and Public Servants. since Habitual LYING and LIBERALISM is a Mental Illness.


4 posted on 02/08/2015 8:36:33 AM PST by eyeamok
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"Surely, responsible gun owners like myself can see that a gun in every car, guns in every bar, guns in every business parking lot, guns in every church, guns at little league ball games, and guns at political rallies create a dangerous and unstable situation."

Last time I went into a restaurant, there were several knives lying on every table. Funny, the situation wasn't unstable at all.

5 posted on 02/08/2015 8:36:36 AM PST by Yogafist
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Beware Democrat groups that say that they are pro-Second Amendment. Ping.


6 posted on 02/08/2015 8:37:50 AM PST by Q-ManRN (Progressivism is regressive!)
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I firmly believe that we, the responsible gun owners of Tennessee of every political persuasion, can come together and find a way to possess guns for protection and sport and still severely limit the abilities of criminals, terrorists, and crazy people to possess the killing machine of their choice.

Do tell Jim, what ideas do you have for accomplishing that exactly? That issue is at the heart of the conflict between responsible gun owners and the hoplophobic, gun grabbing Leftists who are doing all the screaming. Please...just one idea.

Or does Mr. Lewis simply wish to raise the topic for discussion and sit quietly while everyone else fights it out?

8 posted on 02/08/2015 8:40:49 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Life and death are but temporary states. But Freedom endures forever.)
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“Getting rid of the gun-show loophole” is code for gun registration.


10 posted on 02/08/2015 8:42:46 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (One who is merciful to those who are heartless will end up being heartless to those who are merciful)
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Starts with a lie, two provisos, and a red herring. Seems legit.

“I firmly believe that we can...find a way to possess guns for protection...”

Except in bars, business parking lots, churches, little league games, and political rallies. I guess those people are on their own.


11 posted on 02/08/2015 8:46:03 AM PST by Rinnwald
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“No one in America has or will “come to take it away from you.”

But we WILL make it impossible to buy a new one, and we’ll brainwash kids in school to cower at the word “gun”, and refuse to print stories about recreational firearms use, and never publicize citizens using guns for self defense.


12 posted on 02/08/2015 8:46:13 AM PST by DBrow
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Like almost every Democrat, I also support the Second Amendment and the fundamental right to bear arms

When confronted with an easily provable lie, don't waste any of your life reading further.

13 posted on 02/08/2015 8:50:35 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (The Gruber Revelations are proof that God is still smiling on America.)
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‘Rats do want to take your guns. It’s in their DNA - hysterical emotional thinking.


17 posted on 02/08/2015 8:57:17 AM PST by Paladin2
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Surely, responsible gun owners like myself can see that a gun in every car, guns in every bar, guns in every business parking lot, guns in every church, guns at little league ball games, and guns at political rallies create a dangerous and unstable situation.

No not everyone agrees with you.

I firmly believe that we, the responsible gun owners of Tennessee of every political persuasion, can come together and find a way to possess guns for protection and sport and still severely limit the abilities of criminals, terrorists, and crazy people to possess the killing machine of their choice.

Gee, maybe we should have a law that prohibits criminals, terrorists and crazy people from even owning a gun [/sarc}

18 posted on 02/08/2015 8:58:44 AM PST by taxcontrol
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“I firmly believe that we, the responsible gun owners of Tennessee of every political persuasion, can come together and find a way to possess guns for protection and sport and still severely limit the abilities of criminals, terrorists, and crazy people to possess the killing machine of their choice.”

Their ‘way’ always requires me to jump through hoops to prove to some bureaucrat that I’m qualified by their arbitrary measures.

The so called solution to the problem of illegal aliens in the 80’s was to have all citizens submit an I9 form to prove their eligibility for employment.


19 posted on 02/08/2015 8:59:07 AM PST by paint_your_wagon
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Reasonable gun control is reasonably stupid.

No law however strict is ever going to keep guns out of the hands of people who shouldn’t have them.


20 posted on 02/08/2015 8:59:09 AM PST by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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21 posted on 02/08/2015 9:00:21 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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Just another left-wing false flag operation.


25 posted on 02/08/2015 9:14:09 AM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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It was the NRA that mandated instant background checks and a shared criminal database, not the fake waiting periods that did not mandate an actual criminal check.

It was the NRA that pointed out the failures of GOVERNMENT from updating their databases with mental health information.

But, most liberal proposals never fix a problem....they masquerade as a fix until the designed-in flaws are discovered which triggers a new round of legislation to fix the fix.

Liberal programs do not work.....ever.


26 posted on 02/08/2015 9:15:06 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Walker/Cruz 2016)
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> I recently came across a Democrat political group that bills itself as being pro-Second Amendment organization. However, when I examined their rhetoric closely, they are firmly against what the Second Amendment protects.

This is a tactic that the Left employs to fool naive LIVs and conservatives, particularly since Obama took office. They creat these activist groups that have a name that is 180 degrees of what they say it which attracts the target crowd whise opinion it is they want to change then use psychological mubo jumbo on the soft minded to agree with them and change public opinion. It also makes it easier to collect donations from people who arent paying attention. Groups like Bloomberg’s Everytown for Gun Safety, the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, the Gun Violence Policy Center, or the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence are setup to look like they are to protect the public butbtheir hidden agenda is none of the kind instead focusing on disarmament. All of them have “gun safety” or prevention of “gun violence” in their names, but even their names are lies. All of them focus on restricting firearms – gun control – while ignoring the fact that gun control laws have no impact on gun violence and no relation to gun safety. Yes I know I'm preaching to the crowd for the most part but even if it reaches one LIV it will be worth it to me.

27 posted on 02/08/2015 9:19:32 AM PST by jsanders2001
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This guy isn’t even good at it, and he’s also AFRAID to allow comments on his site..

The Democrats are GETTING KILLED over the gun control issue - more than ANY OTHER ISSUE. Every attempt to grab guns (ok, more like ‘regulate’ them, and then grab them) is met with MILLIONS OF NEW GUN OWNERS, none of which want to see their guns seized - and they gravitate to Republicans. A lot of them are union types, who would otherwise vote for Democrats.

But the Democrats are UNABLE to control their own politicians enough to let gun control go away. Just last week a bunch of them introduced legislation in the House to limit magazine sizes to 10 rounds...they just keep pushing it. Now the NRA has a new, 2015 threat, that they can legitimately seize on to further discredit Democrats.

So don’t be surprised as more of these ‘Grass Roots’ types come out of the woodwork...they need to CONVINCE Americans that their guns will be safe with Democrats in power. If they cannot do that, they will get DECIMATED by white voters and won’t even win the Hispanic vote by much. This is EXACTLY what happened in the South last year - if it starts happening in the Midwest, Republicans become the DOMINANT PARTY (hence my tag line).

The media WILL NOT tell you any of this...because they understand the stakes here. The Democrats, with media help, will instead continue to try to convince Republicans that AMNESTY is their only hope of remaining a national party, because the white vote has dropped from 80% to 70%. But the dirty little secret that they know, but Republicans are TOO DUMB TO FIGURE OUT, is that if those 70% effectively vote as a block for Republicans, as they did in Mississippi with 89% voting Republican, the DEMOCRATS, instead, are FINISHED as a national party...at least for a very long time.

Gun control is one of the only issues, maybe the only issue, that cause this to happen.


28 posted on 02/08/2015 9:19:55 AM PST by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win.)
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When they start babbling about “common sense” they are claiming a monopoly on it. I will continue to rely on MY common sense!


31 posted on 02/08/2015 9:30:46 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not A Matter of Opinion)
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