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The EPA Is Getting Ready To Regulate Americans’ Wood Stoves Forcing Them To Buy New Ones
Right Wing News ^ | 06 | Terresa Monroe-Hamilton

Posted on 02/07/2015 6:36:42 AM PST by xzins

When my husband and I move to a new area, we specifically look for a home with a wood burning stove. It’s cheaper and if the power grid goes down, we have a way to survive it. Yep, we’re preppers. These regulations are meant to do away with wood stoves and force people to get their heat from gas or electric, paid for at exorbitant rates from utility providers. In some areas, even with gas or electric, the only way to truly keep a home warm is with a wood or pellet stove. This is more of the EPA’s fascist heavy handedness, trying to control all we do and force us into behavior and routines like you would livestock. The EPA can pound sand as far as I’m concerned.

From the Daily Caller:

The EPA has finalized a 344-page rule to make wood stoves more environmentally friendly, meaning that millions of Americans will soon be forced to buy more expensive wood-fired stoves.

Republican lawmakers have opposed the rule, saying it would harm millions in rural America that rely on wood stoves to heat their homes every winter. With natural gas and electricity prices on the rise, wood stoves can be an economical choice for many living in the countryside.

“The EPA’s shortsighted regulatory overreach is once again hitting hardworking Montanans in their pocketbooks,” said Montana Republican Sen. Steve Daines.

Some 2.4 million American households rely on wood stoves for heat. When the agency proposed the rule last year, critics argued 80 percent of wood stoves in use would not meet tightened standards and consumers would never be able to buy them brand new — raising energy costs for millions of people during the coldest times of the year.

“Thousands of Montanans rely on wood burning stoves for affordable, cost-effective energy — yet once again, the EPA is moving forward with new, costly regulations that could stand in the way of Montanans’ access to new residential wood heaters or burden Montana families with higher costs,” Daines said.

But EPA claims the rule will save lives while only costing $45.7 million per year. EPA also argues that forcing people to ditch their wood stoves will result in 360 to 810 fewer death per year from reduced emissions of carbon monoxide and volatile organic compounds.

“To the extent that children and other sensitive populations are particularly susceptible to asthma, and that minority populations and low-income populations are more vulnerable, this rule will significantly reduce the pollutants that adversely affect their health,” the EPA said in regulatory documents.

The finalized version of EPA’s rule also gives manufacturers more time to make and certify stoves that emit fewer pollutants. Politico’s Morning Energy notes that “[c]ompanies that make small wood-burning forced air furnaces will have to meet first-step emissions limits by 2016, with large furnaces having until 2017.”

“All sizes have to meet second-step limits by 2020,” reports Politico. “EPA will also allow conditional certification for up to a year for several devices if the manufacturer gets an EPA-accredited lab to certify an emissions test.”

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Wisconsin Republicans State Rep. David Craig and State Sen. Frank Lasee introduced legislation to prevent state regulators from implementing the EPA’s wood stove rules. Craig and Lasee argue the rule will only serve to raise energy prices for state residents and hurt manufacturers. Missouri has also introduced a law to block the EPA wood stove rule.

“The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) continues to introduce regressive standards that hurt Wisconsinites, particularly low income families who rely on wood heat,” said Craig.

States such as Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, Wisconsin and other states that have very rural areas are not likely to take this sitting down. It will hurt millions of people and many just won’t be able to afford to get a new, more expensive wood stove. This has nothing to do with asthma or pollution either. That’s just another piece of governmental propaganda. It has everything to do with controlling energy and resources and wait for it… money. Like doing away with coal, this will also cause energy prices to skyrocket even more. We don’t have to see Russia from here anymore… we’re living in it.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: energy; epa; epaoutofcontrol; tyranny; wood; woodburning; woodstoves
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To: VRW Conspirator
He has erected a multitude of new offices by a self-assumed power, & sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people & eat out their substance.

Hmmm...sounds familiar, right on my fingertips...hmmm

Was this by the same guy who wrote "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."?

/S

Thumbs up - - good post, right on point! Is it time yet?

41 posted on 02/07/2015 7:19:05 AM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: xzins

So?

There’s no fixing human stupidity. Government bureaucrats can’t prevent it.

Forcing people to change how they live will never work.


42 posted on 02/07/2015 7:19:43 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: xzins
I would say that a state needs to step up and nullify this law.

But it's not even a law. It's a "rule."

NULLIFY AND IGNORE THIS DAMN NONSENSE!

43 posted on 02/07/2015 7:19:49 AM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: xzins
But EPA claims the rule will save lives while only costing $45.7 million per year. EPA also argues that forcing people to ditch their wood stoves will result in 360 to 810 fewer death per year from reduced emissions of carbon monoxide and volatile organic compounds.

$45.7 million is a nanosecond in government speak. Not even a nick the budget. Oops, that's right, we haven't had a budget in 6 years. Only one thing is certain: By the time the congress critters get through with all the amendments the cost of the program will be a thousand times higher.

Next, how can they determine the 360 to 810 range of potential deaths? Did all these dead people live within a 500 mile radius of a wood burning stove? This is as bogus as the number of deaths caused by secondary smoke. If pressed, the bureaucrats will designate some clerk to change death certificates to state it as a cause of death and pay him/her a bonus for turning in the most bogus documents. The government NEVER has to provide proof for their agenda driven claims, they just get the law passed.

44 posted on 02/07/2015 7:19:51 AM PST by immadashell (The inmates are running the asylum.)
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To: lowbridge

What’s the point of even having a congress that doesn’t make laws? The erosion of congressional power is really amazing, but they seem to be OK with it. As long as they get their paychecks they’re happy.


45 posted on 02/07/2015 7:20:32 AM PST by Starboard
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To: spokeshave
interesting story here:

http://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/blogs/dept/qa-spotlight/double-stud-wall-construction-path-efficiency-budget

46 posted on 02/07/2015 7:20:59 AM PST by spokeshave (He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people,)
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To: Starboard

The GOP is afraid to stand up to Obama.

That’s why he gets away with regulations like this one.

What we do know is the adults are not in charge in Washington.


47 posted on 02/07/2015 7:21:44 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: lowbridge

***“But EPA claims the rule will save lives while only costing $45.7 million per year. ***

And how many people die from breathing the smoke of forest fires in California and the Rockies?
How many die when OUR forest service has a controlled burn and the smoke covers three or four counties?
What about when I burn a pile of brush?

Regulators must regulate, and when there is nothing to regulate they make up something to regulate.


48 posted on 02/07/2015 7:24:53 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: immadashell

Very good post. And you’re absolutely right about the $45.7 million. This may be a case of outrageous waste, but in the government, this is an insignificant amount of money. On more than one occasion I’ve seen government projects run into the ground and fail that greatly exceeded this “paltry” amount. The reality is that nobody noticed and nobody cared. In fact, some of the program managers got promotions. That’s your gubermint folks.


49 posted on 02/07/2015 7:25:15 AM PST by Starboard
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To: goldstategop

The Republicans are a pathetic joke. If I was a Dem, I’d thank my lucky stars everyday for having an “opponent” like the GOP.


50 posted on 02/07/2015 7:33:43 AM PST by Starboard
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To: BinaryBoy
Coming soon:


51 posted on 02/07/2015 7:34:43 AM PST by Carriage Hill ( Some days you're the windshield, and some days you're just the darned bug.)
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To: VRW Conspirator
Is any further proof needed to illustrate the great American experiment in federal republicanism is dead?

From the Declaration you quote, it also states that law must be made with our consent AND serve to secure our unalienable rights.

The supposed law-giving body, our congress, has been reduced to the pitiful condition of begging unaccountable tyrants from abusing the sovereign people. We gave congress, not El Presidente's minions, the power to make law on our behalf.

Clearly, elections alone cannot cure what ails America.

52 posted on 02/07/2015 7:42:23 AM PST by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: xzins

America is now occupied by the most corrupt communists empire that it has ever had. When we get the White House one of the first issued is to eliminate the EPA and rebuild what is really needed. So much to be done that it will take years to rebuild America to what the Constitution offered us - FREEDOM.


53 posted on 02/07/2015 7:44:43 AM PST by Logical me
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To: xzins

They can have my Tulikivi when they pry it from my dead cold hands.

Until then I’ll burn as much wood as I damn well please.


54 posted on 02/07/2015 7:45:24 AM PST by Comment Not Approved (When bureaucrats outlaw hunting, outlaws will hunt bureaucrats.)
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To: xzins
“To the extent that children and other sensitive populations are particularly susceptible to asthma, and that minority populations and low-income populations are more vulnerable, this rule will significantly reduce the pollutants that adversely affect their health,”

Pure unadulterated bullshit.

55 posted on 02/07/2015 7:46:50 AM PST by 2111USMC (Aim Small Miss Small)
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To: ctdonath2

They will do the same thing they have done here. The regs say we cannot sell our house with the pellet stove we have in it. It is an old one and not on the EPA approval list. The stove must be disabled by filling it with cement or removed. That’s really stupid since if we remove it what is left is a masonry fireplace which smokes a heckuva lot more than a pellet stove. OF course their reasoning is that we would replace it with an EPA approved pellet stove but if we are selling it will be removed and the old fashioned smokey fireplace will be put back into use.


56 posted on 02/07/2015 7:47:23 AM PST by sheana
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To: Starboard
What’s the point of even having a congress that doesn’t make laws?

How about one that does nothing but repeal laws?

(we should be so lucky)

57 posted on 02/07/2015 7:47:39 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: xzins
Will the peasantry rise up?
58 posted on 02/07/2015 7:49:16 AM PST by MrBambaLaMamba (Obama - "I will stand with the Muslims")
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To: xzins

Well I’m pretty incensed about the whole thing as we are getting ready to install wood stoves in our run to. but any house that has a woodstove is not going to have to get rid of it. The EPA cannot go door to door or force you to remove your current woodstove.


59 posted on 02/07/2015 7:49:54 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: sheana

You will find no warmth in the peasants, homes,my lord.
They have no wood to burn.

My edict?

Yes,sire.Your edict.


60 posted on 02/07/2015 7:50:22 AM PST by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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