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Pope: ‘Inhuman’ conditions for migrants on US-Mexico border
Associated Press ^ | Feb 5, 2015 2:34 PM EST | Nicole Winfield

Posted on 02/05/2015 5:18:50 PM PST by Olog-hai

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To: Olog-hai

Not enough Cheetos and Pepsi?


101 posted on 02/05/2015 8:28:29 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Toespi

“I am thinking the Pope doesn’t think too highly of the USA.”

Commies typically don’t.


102 posted on 02/05/2015 8:29:59 PM PST by Politicalkiddo ("Don't let anyone look down on you because you are young..." -1 Timothy 4:12)
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To: Olog-hai

The Pope needs to go to the Vatican bank, take out all his “stash” from the vaults, fly to the U.S./Mexican border and pass out all the money to the poor. Time for the Pope to put his money where his rhetoric is.


103 posted on 02/05/2015 8:59:05 PM PST by Cowboy Bob (Isn't it funny that Socialists never want to share their own money?)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

When it comes to ISIS, this Pope is living up (or down) to the totally undeserved reputation of Pius XII in relation to the Holocaust. I never heard even the worst slanderers of Pius XII claim that he said that Nazism was a force for peace, or anything equivalent to the moronic statements Bergoglio has made about Islam.

This Pope’s mind runs in well-worn channels. What will the left-wing media applaud? Say that. What will make “conservatives” mad? Say that.

He will say and do nothing to help wake up the West.


104 posted on 02/05/2015 9:24:41 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: ansel12

I don’t think you read what I wrote.

Why?

Because your response started out with, “No...”


105 posted on 02/05/2015 9:26:12 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan

No, America was not a hell hole, during it’s greatest generations and in the early 1800s, much of it was hard living but the people were good and strong and the nation decent.

Mexico has always been gross and corrupt and nasty, and still is.

Have you spent much time in Mexico?


106 posted on 02/05/2015 9:34:48 PM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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To: ansel12

Funny. I keep agreeing with you, and your responses all start with “No...”


107 posted on 02/05/2015 9:42:41 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan

Go back and look at the things that I am disagreeing with you about, in general, the first sentence of your posts.

You aren’t agreeing with me much at all.


108 posted on 02/05/2015 9:57:09 PM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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To: Olog-hai

The Pope doesn’t give a damn about the foundation of the US and the Constitution that gave him a privilege to come and play leader of all Christians. He is and always was a glory seeker.


109 posted on 02/05/2015 10:01:42 PM PST by noinfringers2
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To: Olog-hai

110 posted on 02/05/2015 11:07:22 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not A Matter of Opinion)
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To: Olog-hai

Francis has made migration one of the priorities of his pontificate and will likely raise the issue when he visits the U.S. in September.


Interesting how AP uses the word “migration” versus illegal immigration, etc....


111 posted on 02/05/2015 11:56:30 PM PST by Freedom56v2 (Make 'em squeal!)
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To: Olog-hai
Apparenyly the treatment isn't inhumane enough, they are still streaming across the border!!!!
112 posted on 02/06/2015 12:38:27 AM PST by dalereed
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To: bushwon

Yes. They’ve adopted the European politically-correct term.


113 posted on 02/06/2015 6:03:40 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Maybe he should bring that up with those encouraging them to go to the border.


114 posted on 02/06/2015 6:07:01 AM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: OneWingedShark

Jeepers.
You’re talking about picking off non-combatant border crossers.

1. If it truly is an invasion, the proper response by the US military would be to go on the offensive and set-up a buffer zone, and not take up a defensive position. But even that is extreme.

2. Border crossings account for ~40% of illegal immigration. The rest comes from expired visas. Your “solution” doesn’t address that at all.


115 posted on 02/06/2015 7:05:13 AM PST by kidd
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To: kidd
You’re talking about picking off non-combatant border crossers.

They're invaders not simply border crossers.
Moreover, it's clear that this is an existential question: how many more border crossers until the US ceases to be [culturally] the US?
We see it being pushed by Mexico, which publishes go to the US how-to documents, as well as our own political elite — doing the jobs Americans won't do is their PR/news-bite justification, but it's more sinister than that: the middle class is being eradicated and these foreign nationals are being brought in to replace them. One reason is because they're from countries which are a lot more overtly totalitarian and corrupt, by eliminating the middle class and infusing the pool of common men with these they strip society of the ability to resist as well as the will to resist.

The above is also the reason that neither the Republican or Democrat party will do anything against these foreign invaders: (a) they want them here, and (b) to address the problem is to acknowledge the invasion (again, they numerically comprise 3.5% to 12.7% of the population) and (c) to do so would expose the federal government for its malfeasance [Art 4, Sec 4 requires them to protect against invasion] as well as allow the States to jeopardize their power [a governor, recognizing the invasion and calling up the state's military might as response would force the federal government into a no-win situation].

1. If it truly is an invasion, the proper response by the US military would be to go on the offensive and set-up a buffer zone, and not take up a defensive position. But even that is extreme.

I'm not against responding with an offensive… there's just huge operational security issues when 3.5% to 12.7% of the population in your logistics-space (friendly/controlled territory you use to produce/procure/supply the frontlines) is nominally aligned with your enemy. (Furthermore, that they are clustered on your own population clusters makes for a very good guerrilla-warfare or terror-campaign setup on their part.)

2. Border crossings account for ~40% of illegal immigration. The rest comes from expired visas. Your “solution” doesn’t address that at all.

That solution doesn't address those already here either. There are some ways that could be done; but acknowledging the invasion is a necessary first-step.
(And unless it's treated like an invasion, it's not really acknowledging it, is is?)

116 posted on 02/06/2015 8:18:28 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: bushwon
Interesting how AP uses the word “migration” versus illegal immigration, etc....

It's because our elite really don't want to acknowledge that it's an invasion.

117 posted on 02/06/2015 8:24:07 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Politicalkiddo

POPE FRANCIS ACCUSSED U.S. OF INHUMAN TREATMENT OF THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.

Pope Francis has shown a gross disrespect towards the U.S. It is preposterous to accuse U.S. of inhuman treatment of hundreds of thousands of migrants that violated their borders and sovereignty. They are being treated ten times better that in their own country; otherwise, they are free to return to their countries.

Pope Francis did not critique, much less did he demand from the Cuban regime a more humane treatment for the 12 million Cubans enslaved for 56 years under the boot of a brutal Stalinist regime in what is a huge prison island. Those 12 million Cubans would thank God one million times if they are given the opportunity to share with our brothers Latin Americans the “inhuman conditions” alleged by Pope Francis.


118 posted on 02/06/2015 6:13:03 PM PST by Dqban22 (Hpo<p> http://i.imgur.com/26RbAPxjpg)
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To: Secret Agent Man
... far worse treatment of illegals in their country...

As in many dictatorial-state nations.

I guess the global government only wants to make an example of the U.S.A. - how dare our ancestors subscribe to the idea of Manifest Destiny, or the contemporary idea of American exceptionalism. History, after all, is there for the re-writing. I don't think that even Carl Jung could have manipulated the "collective unconsciousness" with such finesse.
Or even conceive that such alteration was possible.

119 posted on 02/06/2015 6:34:18 PM PST by fone (@ the breaking point!)
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