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Christian Bakers Who Refused to Make Cake for Lesbian Wedding Found Guilty
The Christian Post ^ | 2/4/15 | Leonardo Blair

Posted on 02/04/2015 1:28:16 PM PST by Enlightened1

Christian owners of a bakery in Gresham, Oregon, who were forced to close their business in 2013 due to backlash over their refusal to bake a cake for a lesbian wedding based on religious objections, were found guilty of discrimination Monday and now have to pay the couple up to $150,000 in fines.

The Oregon Bureau of Labor and Industries announced that the owners of Sweet Cakes by Melissa bakery, Aaron and Melissa Klein, will have to pay the sapphic couple. Whether or not they pay the maximum $150,000 fine will be determined at a hearing on March 10 BOLI spokesman, Charlie Burr

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: bakers; christian; fined; gayweddingcake; homosexualagenda; lesbian; oregon; persecution; yesterday
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To: bgill

“Any “mistake” is way cheaper than a lawsuit or a closed business. These days, with so many ridiculous premeditated law suits, owners should be prepared to protect themselves.”

Given WHY they didn’t want to serve them lying about it just wouldn’t fly.


61 posted on 02/04/2015 2:43:26 PM PST by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job..)
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To: C210N

This is what I’ve been wondering too. It’s my understanding that the business has since closed. Maybe it wasn’t a corporation, which would be a mistake for any bakery.


62 posted on 02/04/2015 2:45:03 PM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: fuzzylogic; C210N

For the findings.......

Click the link in #60 above and scroll down to the last couple of pages 50 & 51.


63 posted on 02/04/2015 2:53:02 PM PST by deport
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To: Steve_Seattle

“Someday the American Revolution might have to be fought all over again.”

Yup.


64 posted on 02/04/2015 2:59:55 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Nea Wood

“Then we are no longer a free country, and should not even pretend to be, or give lip service to being one.”

Sounds logical.


65 posted on 02/04/2015 3:03:01 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: molson209

Right. How about I have a store and I say the only product I sell are Judeo-Christian wedding cakes? These cakes come with a one-bride-one-groom caketopper, the names of the bride and groom, and a biblical phrase of MY choice written in icing around the outside of the largest layer of the cake.
And let’s just say that for any marriages that are of a certain type, I always choose a verse from Leviticus.

That is the cake I sell to everyone, no discrimination here, take it or leave it, as is.


66 posted on 02/04/2015 3:18:55 PM PST by Subcutaneous Fishstick Blues
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To: DonaldC

Uh...”We reserve the right....”????? No one forced the faggots and degenerates to visit that shop; I would bet my bottom dollar there are homosexual shops in the area that would gladly service their requests.


67 posted on 02/04/2015 3:24:21 PM PST by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: Heartlander
They chose not to provide a service based on a behavior – not based on race, sex, religion, ethnicity (which is illegal). A lawyer doesn’t have to represent clients that engage in activities that he finds morally repugnant (behavior) — a plumber or electrician can make the same choice. A restaurant may refuse to deliver pizza to an abortion clinic or may refuse to let patrons bring alcohol to drink with dinner even if the restaurant’s motivation is moral disapproval (behavior). Businesses impose dress codes on patrons and refuse to allow patrons who wear T-shirts containing messages that they see as repugnant (behavior). Refusing service based on behavior is not illegal.


Obama hopes to have all those rights (to refuse service) illegal before he leaves office. The left have their judges in place to fundamentally change this country to be the nirvana they always hoped for. Change the judges to true constitutionist and you change the country.
68 posted on 02/04/2015 3:28:31 PM PST by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: Enlightened1

BTTT


69 posted on 02/04/2015 3:30:06 PM PST by Enlightened1
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To: txrefugee

‘_________and their fellow Christians should help them pay this unjust fine.’

I would expect just such an outcome.


70 posted on 02/04/2015 3:31:08 PM PST by USARightSide (S U P P O R T I N G OUR T R O O P S)
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To: Linda Frances
Correct.

Lawyers may refuse to represent clients whose case does not appeal to them.

Advertising and PR firms may refuse clients whose ideas, policies, products, or business practices are offensive to them. (For example, a liberal firm might reject a client in the oil industry.)

An artist may refuse a commission for a cause he does not support. (For example, a pacifistic sculptor might refuse a commission to design a war memorial.)

A Muslim caterer might refuse a client who wants pork products or alcoholic beverages to be served at an event.)

A store owner might refuse to deal with products that are manufactured under conditions that the owner opposes (e.g., non-union products).

An entertainer might refuse to perform at an event for a political party he does not support.

In other words, it is COMMON for businesses of many kinds to reject dealing with certain customers or clients for moral reasons.
71 posted on 02/04/2015 3:41:38 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Linda Frances

For many years, the Seattle Times has refused to accept ads for x-rated movies and for “escort” services. They do this because they apparently have a moral objection to these things. Yet they insist adamantly that Christian bakers and florists do not have the same rights of conscience that they have.


72 posted on 02/04/2015 3:45:10 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Enlightened1

I was just thinking - I believe supermarkets have wedding cakes - yes? - probably special order, of course.
No need to support Mom and Pop - or Pop and Pop - bakeries.

Did these bakeries go out with high-button shoes?
Altho I loved getting my kid’s cakes at one here years ago.

And there’s home bakers who bake custom cakes.

Oh gee gosh - remembered - there IS a bakery in my city with guys at the helm - they are fabulous cakes - and expensive.


73 posted on 02/04/2015 3:47:13 PM PST by USARightSide (S U P P O R T I N G OUR T R O O P S)
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To: Sybeck1
I bet the judge is a carpet muncher

The administrative law judge is one Alan McCollough, evidently a father of three and a "flute player" who lives in Eugene, OR.

Flute Playing Judge

74 posted on 02/04/2015 3:47:48 PM PST by bkopto (Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free.)
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To: Enlightened1

My question is why does the LGTB group think this is some sort of “positive”. Sure, they could use this example to force, coerce or threaten people to do what they want, and those people may comply because they simply cannot afford to lose their business and their livelihood, but it does not mean they now accept the behavior, or are somehow “on their side”. Just the opposite; I would think this creates resentment and perhaps even anger, not some sort of magical understanding and acceptance.


75 posted on 02/04/2015 4:06:26 PM PST by twyn1
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To: bkopto

The judge also belongs to the United Lutheran Church in Eugene, OR also.


76 posted on 02/04/2015 4:12:13 PM PST by bkopto (Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free.)
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To: Enlightened1
found guilty...Oregon Bureau of Labor and Industries

Still trying to find out if an actual trial happened or if it's just some government agency that made the determination.

Even corporations get jury trials in civil cases if they request them.

77 posted on 02/04/2015 4:20:41 PM PST by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: Enlightened1

Oregon Nazis find Christians guilty.

Not surprised. Maybe conservative blue states can band together and refuse to recognize Oregon Nazi driver’s licenses.


78 posted on 02/04/2015 5:02:36 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: SkyDancer

Because....we’re not a free country? Not sure I’m getting your point.


79 posted on 02/04/2015 5:56:47 PM PST by Nea Wood
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To: Nea Wood

My point is: Those bakers being fined for not baking a cake. They’re a private company/business ...where does the government get off saying who you have to deal with?


80 posted on 02/04/2015 6:04:37 PM PST by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am ...)
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