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The income tax started as a conservative political stunt
Business Insider ^ | February 3, 2015 | Christina Sterbenz

Posted on 02/03/2015 7:24:16 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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1 posted on 02/03/2015 7:24:16 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Vote Republican!

Oh... wait

Is this a bad thread to proclaim that on?


2 posted on 02/03/2015 7:26:17 PM PST by Crazieman (Article V or National Divorce. The only solutions now.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Repeal the 16th Amendment.


3 posted on 02/03/2015 7:27:44 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Crazieman
Well they always say: The US has two political parties.

The Stupid Party and the Evil Party.

I am a member of the Stupid Party.

4 posted on 02/03/2015 7:33:49 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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Actually it is a well proven fact that the 16th amendment didn’t pass.

But the news media all claimed that it did, so here we are.

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5 posted on 02/03/2015 7:38:55 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Pontiac

“I am a member of the Stupid Party.”

I don’t believe you. Name one stupid thing you did today.

:-)


6 posted on 02/03/2015 7:56:44 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: editor-surveyor

Looks like you are not as smart as we had hoped you would be.

Myth 1: The 16th Amendment Was Not Properly Ratified

The 16th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution was ratified in 1913, and explicitly gives the federal government the power to lay and collect taxes on incomes from any source. Before this, the federal government lacked the constitutional power to collect income taxes.

To become a part of the Constitution, a proposed amendment must be passed by 2/3 of Congress and ratified by the legislatures of ¾ of the states. When individual state legislatures were considering ratifying the amendment, like any other law, each state had to draft a bill and put it to a vote. Each bill contained the full text of the proposed amendment and varied from state to state in spelling, punctuation, or capitalization.

However, the substance of each version of the proposed amendment was identical. Every court that has considered the constitutionality argument of the income tax has flatly rejected it.

http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/tax-protest-myths.html


7 posted on 02/03/2015 7:58:33 PM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

They should take a side trip to Russia....LOL.


8 posted on 02/03/2015 8:01:53 PM PST by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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To: editor-surveyor
Actually it is a well proven fact that the 16th amendment didn’t pass.

Not a fact, and certainly not "proven." Some guy named Bill Benson wrote a book claiming that it wasn't ratified, but Benson went on to serve a long prison sentence for tax evasion.

9 posted on 02/03/2015 8:19:03 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

And you think that makes Benson’s research false?

May your chains...

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10 posted on 02/03/2015 8:40:49 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Republicans gave us the Stupid Tax, and the Roe court was mostly Republican-appointed.


11 posted on 02/03/2015 8:43:32 PM PST by EternalVigilance (The 14th Amendment protects the life of every person. Babies are persons. Start acting like it.)
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To: SVTCobra03

The courts stonewalling is not proof of anything.

Benson’s detailed investigation showed that about half of the states that supposedly had ratified it had actually heavily revised it, some omitting large chunks of the proposed text.

There is no honest question but that the “ratification” was a hallucination in reality.

The courts are not imbued with the power to address the propriety of a state’s ratification; it is the purvey of the congress.

Congress never addressed it.

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12 posted on 02/03/2015 8:52:44 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I believe that amendment more than anything else changed the nature of this country.

It’s what has allowed the federal government to grow into the tyrannical behemoth that it is today, and to invade the smallest detail of our private lives.


13 posted on 02/03/2015 11:34:26 PM PST by aquila48
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To: Pontiac

Gee, I thought the two Parties were the Communist Party and the Communist Sympathizer Party.


14 posted on 02/03/2015 11:46:09 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (If you think the Mulatto Marxist is bad, just wait until the Menopausal Marxist shows up.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

This story is ridiculous. William Taft proposed the 16th amendment as a way to undercut the Commies in the Democrat party and the western states. It was expected to pass and it did. Check out Irwin Schiff’s “The Great Income Tax Hoax” for the real story.


15 posted on 02/04/2015 5:08:31 AM PST by Stepan12 (Our present appeasement of Islam is the Stockholm Syndrome on steroids.)
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To: aquila48

William Taft was supposed to be the Conservative alternative to Teddy Roosevelt? He did more “trustbusting” than Teddy Roosevelt did. He also promulgated the 16th amendment (largly as a result to the squawking against the excellent Pollack Vs Farmers Loan and Trust decision of 1895).


16 posted on 02/04/2015 5:11:13 AM PST by Stepan12 (Our present appeasement of Islam is the Stockholm Syndrome on steroids.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Many so called conservatives are "Free Traders" and hate tariffs. But if you push them to make a choice between tariffs and income taxes they will pick income taxes every time.

Almost every founding "father" was an extreme protectionist and the first law signed by President Washington was the Tariff act of 1789.

17 posted on 02/04/2015 5:22:40 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: aquila48

I think both the 16th and the 17th amendments are equally evil.


18 posted on 02/04/2015 5:23:41 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Name one prominent *limited government* proponent that pushed the 16th Amendment. This was the age of "progression" with Teddy, Wilson, and Taft all "pimping" this abomination that all short-sighted/tyrannical progressive politicians do with the expansion of government powers.

Labels like this writer uses is the means to achieve a disingenuous conclusion in order to push a particular agenda.
19 posted on 02/04/2015 5:24:49 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

What the article fails to mention is that the 16th Amendment was only needed to tax income based on capital, i.e. rents, dividends and interest. A tax on wages and salaries is considered an excise tax and has always been constitutional even before the 16th Amendment.


20 posted on 02/04/2015 5:26:27 AM PST by Petrosius
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