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Blaming Anti-vax Parents for Mickey Mouse Measles
The New American ^ | February 2, 2015 | Rebecca Terrell

Posted on 02/02/2015 12:00:39 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: Bogey78O

“You shouldn’t be forces to get it but if you don’t then you shouldn’t be allowed in school.” - B78O

Do these people denied public school get tax refunds in your solution?


41 posted on 02/02/2015 2:47:44 PM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery ea)
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To: Triple

No.

Why should they? They’ve elected not to use them same as drunks don’t get refunds for roads they’re barred from using.


42 posted on 02/02/2015 3:14:04 PM PST by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Associating ourselves with anti-vaccine nut cases is the last thing the conservative movement needs.


43 posted on 02/02/2015 3:45:51 PM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: All

two words.. ill illegals..


44 posted on 02/02/2015 3:46:22 PM PST by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: Maelstorm; Tolerance Sucks Rocks
5 people out of 34 got both doses of the vaccine and still got it.

The 34 people were just the ones for whom they had vaccination records out of the total of 91 measles cases in California. But you really need to compare the 5 people to all the vaccinated Californians who went to Disney properties at the same time and didn't get measles.

Suppose that 1/3 of Californians who go to Disney properties are not vaccinated. that would mean that for every 86 (91-5) who get measles, there should be 172 people who were exposed but didn't get it. But it turns out that 5 of these did get it. So we should be comparing the 5 people to something like 172 which is about a 3% vaccine failure rate.

(The effectiveness might be even better if there are more than 2/3 of Disney-going Californians who are vaccinated.)

45 posted on 02/02/2015 4:24:41 PM PST by wideminded
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To: Bogey78O

Oh, I see you are a ‘what is not forbidden is mandatory’ style republican.

- never mind...


46 posted on 02/02/2015 5:27:39 PM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery ea)
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To: Impy
Associating ourselves with anti-vaccine nut cases is the last thing the conservative movement needs.

+1

47 posted on 02/02/2015 5:38:48 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Holdem Or Foldem; Bubba_Leroy

I’m missing where in Bubba’s posting he mentioned Mexico. Please show me where he mentioned Mexico. I’ve had a long day of supporting the welfare state, but from what I see, the only one who mentioned Mexico, along with a derogatory name, is you.

Not sure where you live, but any thinking people along the border know that Obama’s surge of illegal alien fake “children” (dubbed so only by the propaganda machine) were from every country, and likely very few from Mexico.

Did you not see all the cattle cars funneling kids from all of Central America and wherever else they had flown in from?

Did you not hear about the resurgence of polio and polio-like debilitating diseases, subtropical fevers, and other horrors — immediately after the illegal criminals were placed throughout the USA? Did you not hear about all the American-born children who died, in places like CO?

By your logic, you blame innocent Americans for suddenly and magically coming down with ailments and diseases we had thought essentially eradicated.


48 posted on 02/02/2015 5:44:40 PM PST by Borax Queen
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To: Triple

I’m not the kind of Republican that thinks you have a right to force others to accept your dangerous lifestyle choices.

“It’s my right to drive drunk through school zones at 100mph because I pay taxes?”

It’s fine for you to put the lives of your children at risk. I’m cool with that. Love your kids as much or as little as you want.

But you don’t have the right to endanger the lives of my children because you don’t understand germ theory.


49 posted on 02/02/2015 5:45:50 PM PST by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: cripplecreek

Yeah, no kidding, ditto.


50 posted on 02/02/2015 5:46:08 PM PST by Borax Queen
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To: Bogey78O

?=!


51 posted on 02/02/2015 5:47:08 PM PST by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

These are illegal alien measles.


52 posted on 02/02/2015 5:48:45 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: MrShoop

How do the unvaccinated pose a risk to the vaccinated. If you have the vaccination you are immune,right?


53 posted on 02/02/2015 5:50:55 PM PST by kailbo
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To: eastexsteve

There is zero proof that the varicella vaccine protects against shingles.


54 posted on 02/02/2015 5:52:32 PM PST by kailbo
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To: eastexsteve

There is zero proof that the varicella vaccine protects against shingles.


55 posted on 02/02/2015 5:52:35 PM PST by kailbo
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To: Holdem Or Foldem

The reporting systems in Mexico are suspect at best.

The illegal aliens are not necessarily at all from Mexico.


56 posted on 02/02/2015 5:55:00 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: kailbo

Because there’s a 5 to 10% chance the immunization failed.

If I told you there was a 5% chance a rollercoaster would fail and maim you, would you risk it? I’d rather not have to find out my immunization failed by being exposed to a sick person.


57 posted on 02/02/2015 6:01:51 PM PST by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: Borax Queen

We had an outbreak of an RSV like virus locally that made the news. Dozens of kids landed in the PICU, and a few ended up with life changing complications.

The source? A family from Central America. Once that hit the news, it dropped off the national radar.

We also had a measles outbreak a few years ago. All the recorded kids had been vaccinated, and the health department kept repeating it was a carrier who had not been vaccinated yet showed no signs of measles. There were five kids in the local preschool (four of whom where in my oldest daughter’s dance class) who caught it.

As a result, many people around here stopped vaccinating their kids for measles. The (flawed) reasoning? The health department said the kid who had not been vaccinated showed no symptoms, the kids who had got sick.


58 posted on 02/02/2015 6:08:55 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Bogey78O

Read the studies. It is a much higher chance than that.

Vaccines are about managing risk. That 5-20% failure rate could lead to the same situation you have now.


59 posted on 02/02/2015 6:10:47 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum

It’s all so scary and horrible. I’m first generation American and when my parents and grandparents waited for years, hoping to be admitted into the U.S., they of course all had to be healthy. Now it’s just free-for-all of criminals, bringing their plagues, their crime, and their hands-out-for-our-hard-earned money.

I’m not around any children and work mostly from home, so not around too many adults either. However, I dutifully got my whooping cough vaccine, despite receiving it before (when I was little). They said (here in So Arizona) we all of a sudden had a lot of outbreaks and that people could be carriers without knowing it. I hope they weren’t using me as a human guinea pig, that’s all I can say.


60 posted on 02/02/2015 6:19:30 PM PST by Borax Queen
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