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State Legislators Renew Battle Against Same-sex Marriage Decrees
The New American ^ | January 30, 2015 | Jack Kenny

Posted on 01/30/2015 12:08:11 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

In what has been described as a new front in the battle over same-sex marriage, legislators in several states under judicial orders to confer marital status on same-sex couples have introduced bills to forbid state or local officials from issuing marriage licenses to couples of the same gender. The bills would also strip the salaries of employees who issued the licenses, the New York Times reported Thursday.

The bills have been introduced in the legislatures of Oklahoma, South Carolina, and Texas, with South Carolina also considering a bill that would allow officials to opt out of issuing such licenses if it conflicts with their “sincerely held religious beliefs.” Lawmakers in North Carolina and Utah have bills before them with similar opt-out provisions. And Roy Moore, chief justice of Alabama, has told officials in his state that they need not comply with a federal court order in favor of same-sex marriage in Alabama, in part because “nothing in the United States Constitution grants the federal government the authority to redefine the institution of marriage.”

More than 40 federal court rulings declaring a right to same-sex marriage have been handed down since the Supreme Court in 2012 struck down a provision of the federal Defense of Marriage Act that limited federal marriage benefits to opposite-sex couples only. On the same day, the justices also let stand a lower court decision that California’s ban on same-sex marriage, adopted by voters in a referendum in 2008, was unconstitutional. Last October the high court refused to hear an appeal from rulings requiring five states to grant legal equality between heterosexual and same-sex marriage, thereby increasing the the number of states permitting marriage for same-sex couples at that time from 19 to 24. It has since been made legal in a dozen more states, bringing the total to 36 states and the District of Columbia, encompassing 70 percent of the nation’s population.

Earlier this month, the Supreme Court agreed to hear a case brought by 15 plaintiffs in four states, appealing a ruling by the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals in Cincinnati that upheld bans on same-sex marriage in Kentucky, Michigan, Ohio, and Tennessee. In writing the majority opinion, Judge Jeffrey Sutton said the voters and legislators, not judges, should decide the issue. The Supreme Court has scheduled an extraordinary two-and-a-half hour hearing on the questions of whether the Constitution requires the states to license a marriage between two people of the same sex and, if so, whether states must recognize the same-sex marriages of other states.

Those inquiries bring up a larger question: What provision in the Constitution gives any branch of the federal government — legislative, executive, or judicial — authority to reconstruct the meaning of marriage? The post-Civil War 14th Amendment guarantee that no state “shall deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of its laws,” was adopted to assure the safety and protection of African-Americans, especially those who had recently been freed from slavery. It surely was never the intention of the Congress that passed it or the states that ratified it to create an authority for the federal judiciary to impose on the laws of every state the peculiar novelty of our own time, namely that a union between two men or two women may be considered a legally valid marriage.

In the senate of South Carolina, Republican Lee Bright is the sponsor of a bill to allow state employees to opt out of issuing marriage licenses on religious grounds, an option he likens to provisions of existing laws that permit healthcare workers to refuse to assist in abortions. It seems likely to pass in a state where 78 percent of the voters in 2006 approved a constitutional amendment affirming marriage as a union between a man and a woman.

Some legal experts predict judges will be offended by state actions that impede their efforts to impose same-sex marriage in states where either voters or their elected representative have rejected it. “I think they’ll be angry,” Risa Goluboff, a law professor at the University of Virginia, told the New York Times. “I think they’ll see this as outright defiance and treat it that way.”

But defiance is sometimes the only way the people in their respective states can attempt to check a federal government that exceeds the authority delegated to it in our Constitution. So argued James Madison and Thomas Jefferson in their writings against the federal Alien and Sedition Acts in the Virginia and Kentucky Resolutions. After the Supreme Court delivered its Dred Scott decision in 1857, Abraham Lincoln did not call for defiance, but he did suggest that a Supreme Court decision may be subject to ongoing challenges. As he stated in his first Inaugural Address:

I do not forget the position assumed by some that constitutional questions are to be decided by the Supreme Court, nor do I deny that such decisions must be binding in any case upon the parties to a suit as to the object of that suit, while they are also entitled to very high respect and consideration in all parallel cases by all other departments of the Government.... At the same time, the candid citizen must confess that if the policy of the Government upon vital questions affecting the whole people is to be irrevocably fixed by decisions of the Supreme Court, the instant they are made in ordinary litigation between parties in personal actions the people will have ceased to be their own rulers, having to that extent practically resigned their Government into the hands of that eminent tribunal.

The people of 21st century America have largely ceased to be their own rulers, due in no small part to an exaggerated deference to “that eminent tribunal.”

Such measures as are now being considered in a few of our states are a sign that the republican spirit, though long slumbering, is not yet dead.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Alabama; US: Kentucky; US: Michigan; US: North Carolina; US: Ohio; US: Oklahoma; US: South Carolina; US: Tennessee; US: Texas; US: Utah
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To: ExTxMarine
It is completely within the rights of each state to determine who can enter into said contracts

No state has the right to legislate that fire does not burn, or that water is not wet.

21 posted on 01/30/2015 3:13:14 PM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Re-enact your prior laws. Marriage is constitutionally NOT a Federal matter.


22 posted on 01/30/2015 3:18:38 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Jim Noble

“Resisting the Federal courts in this way is not nullification, because no Federal law is being nullified. Should Congress pass a bill and the President sign it into law under the Full Faith and Credit clause requiring Oklahoma to recognize unions contracted in New York, and Oklahoma resist, THAT would be nullification.”

It is one of many curiosities about the Standing of the Federal ‘court’ in this case. Not the least of which the which the absence of law Federal in nature Constitutional or legislative.

How is it that they can demand anything of our States where no law authorizing said action has ever existed? Their leftist appointed subordinates have been demanding a service be given where no law authorizes said service at all.

As for Congressional Contract Power, there is nothing prohibiting two men or women from forming any sort of contract. People sign contracts all the time frequently involving many parties of various sexes. Marriage is not a contractual creation of the state nor is the State’s licence a contractual agreement.

Insolently even to the exist that the legal concept of marriage in the State is a specific application of a specific kind of contract, to allow the Federal court to redefine that sort of contract would necessarily extend their legislative power over all other contracts by the exact same means of claiming violation of an unwritten and apparently universally applicable constitutional clause.


23 posted on 01/30/2015 3:30:05 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: Jim Noble

“No state has the right to legislate that fire does not burn, or that water is not wet.”

This is true as a matter of natural law, but politicians like judges are quite accustom to the practice of telling lies to expand their power.

I wouldn’t put it past a legislator, or legislating Federal judge to pass just such a law if it could in anyway benefit their reach of power.

The practical consequences is that we the people should laugh at them as nature defies their will with impunity, Just as we laugh at and unequivocally reject the notion that two or more people of the same sex are some how ‘married’ to each other.

They may call their marriage whatever they want, but even the expert lairs of the State can never make it so. Marriage is between a man and a woman and there are no more exceptions to that natural law than there is to any other.


24 posted on 01/30/2015 3:35:21 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: Monorprise
.... there is nothing prohibiting two men or women from forming any sort of contract. People sign contracts all the time frequently involving many parties of various sexes. Marriage is not a contractual creation of the state nor is the State’s license a contractual agreement.

Since the Constitution does not specifically mention marriage of any sort, how can the Federal Courts throw out state laws that specifically regulate it?

25 posted on 01/30/2015 4:02:13 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (We ain't running against Obama. Where are OUR Program, OUR Plan, OUR Leaders?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
More than 40 federal court rulings declaring a right to same-sex marriage have been handed down since the Supreme Court in 2012 struck down a provision of the federal Defense of Marriage Act . . .

A made-up "right" that would have been UNIMAGINABLE a generation ago. If that is not a sign that our elitist judiciary has gone off the deep end, I don't know what would be.

26 posted on 01/30/2015 4:49:36 PM PST by madprof98
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To: Monorprise

“Of the Radical left who now firmly control our media...”

They control our media because good men haven’t dragged these Nazi fascists into a dark parking lot and read them the riot act.

The media pigs don’t stand 10-feet tall and threaten us with their Rambo martial skills.

These media mutts pee in their pants, hate guns, have been castrated by weak 100-lb feminists, wear mascara, carry purses and wouldn’t last two minutes on a battlefield.

So, Republicans are afraid of these castrated, leftist wimps for what reason????


27 posted on 01/30/2015 6:03:27 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The Alien Friends act should be renewed.


28 posted on 01/30/2015 6:30:58 PM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: sergeantdave

we are not going to win a battle over information by way of force nor even competing information when we are denied access to the field. you are right we need to call the leftest campaigners posing as reporters out for not only that but there anti-democratic efforts to suppress the debate.


29 posted on 01/31/2015 3:53:29 AM PST by Monorprise
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

If a central socialist government (like ours) can change the rules regarding gender then the rules can absolutely be changed regarding age requirements and even consent laws.

The future would include pedophiles being able to force children to marry them. The Muslims here and abroad already marry children as did the ‘prophet’ Mohammed.

The groundwork has been laid in other countries so no one with a functioning brain can’t claim that it isn’t. To radically redefine one of the most important foundations of civilized society and not expect everything to be radically shaken and changed.

Anal sex makes it impossible to procreate, but the next thing we’ll see happen is the evil central socialist government spending billions to see if one of the homosexual partners can be re-plumbed.

Those among us who would argue that homosexuals and the filthy ways they achieve orgasms is perfectly normal and healthy are as stupid as the phony president who calls those crawling out of the closets to congratulate them.


30 posted on 01/31/2015 7:36:01 AM PST by HomerBohn (God is just, but his justice cannot sleep forever!)
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