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Astronomical discovery: 'Super Saturn' with rings 200 times as large
CNN ^ | 28 Jan 15 | Ben Brumfield

Posted on 01/28/2015 2:55:55 PM PST by Drew68

(CNN)In 1610, after he built his telescope, Galileo Galilei first spotted enormous Saturn's gigantic rings. More than 400 years later, astronomers have in a sense dwarfed that discovery with a similar first.

Using powerful optics, they have found a much larger planet-like body, J1407b, with rings 200 times the size of Saturn's, U.S. and Dutch astronomers said.

It lies some 400 light-years away from Earth.

For decades, scientists have believed that many moons around large planets formed out of such ring systems. But this is the first one astronomers have observed aside from Saturn's, they said.

It was discovered in 2012, but a detailed analysis of its data was recently completed and published.

Dominating the sky

If J1407b were in our solar system, it would dominate Earth's nightly sky.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: astronomy; j1407b; lordoftherings; planet; planetlike; saturn; saturnlike; saturnrings; xplanets
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Artist conception of J1407b:

What J1407b's rings would look like on Saturn if viewed from Earth:


1 posted on 01/28/2015 2:55:55 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Drew68

Wow


2 posted on 01/28/2015 2:57:04 PM PST by Crazieman (Article V or National Divorce. The only solutions now.)
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To: Drew68
Related:

Gigantic ring system around J1407b much larger, heavier than Saturn’s

3 posted on 01/28/2015 2:57:28 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Drew68

If that was in our solar system, there would be religions worshiping it


4 posted on 01/28/2015 2:58:43 PM PST by GeronL
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To: SunkenCiv

ring ping


5 posted on 01/28/2015 3:06:01 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Drew68
It lies some 400 light-years away from Earth.

Which means we are seeing what was happening when Galileo was doing his thing looking at Saturn. Which also means it may or may not still be there; probably is, but we won't know for another 400 years, by which time it may or may not still be there, but we won't know...

6 posted on 01/28/2015 3:06:11 PM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: Drew68

Makes sense to me.


7 posted on 01/28/2015 3:09:33 PM PST by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: Drew68

Wow! Just, WOW! :)


8 posted on 01/28/2015 3:12:07 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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400 years isn’t very long so they rings probably wouldn’t change all that much. UNLESS, the moons form much faster than we currently think they do which is also a possibility.

Its important to note that a very large diffuse ring was discovered around Saturn just a few years ago.


9 posted on 01/28/2015 3:15:58 PM PST by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: GeronL

No need to see it.

Saturn worship: http://andyettheydeny.blogspot.com/2010/01/occult-symbolism-saturn-worship.html


10 posted on 01/28/2015 3:20:32 PM PST by freedumb2003 (AGW: Settled Science? If so, there would only be one model and it would agree with measurements)
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To: chajin

Makes sense to me.


11 posted on 01/28/2015 3:24:42 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (Just say to NO Rhinos in 2016.)
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To: Drew68

So they are saying that the rings reflexivity would be enough to see in daylight on Earth at Saturn’s distance which is 9x Earth’s?


12 posted on 01/28/2015 3:40:42 PM PST by cicero2k
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but we won't know for another 400 years, by which time it may or may not still be there, but we won't know...

The way things are going, there's a good possibility that none of our future ancestors will be around 400 years from now either.

13 posted on 01/28/2015 3:50:03 PM PST by fivecatsandadog (OBAMA - IMPEACH HIM NOW. Worry about it later.)
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To: GeronL
If that was in our solar system, there would be religions worshiping it

It's like Obama. It's a brown dwarf that got hot, but never quite made it as a star. There's rings of stuff attracted to it, but not much going for it otherwise.

14 posted on 01/28/2015 4:52:27 PM PST by roadcat
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So they are saying that the rings reflexivity would be enough to see in daylight on Earth at Saturn’s distance which is 9x Earth’s?

The rings on this "Super Saturn" (which is actually a brown dwarf, 10-40 times the mass of Jupiter) are 120 million kilometers in diameter. Given that Saturn is 1.2 billion kilometers away from the Earth at its closest approach, I'm sure rings this size would be visible in daylight.

120 million kilometers is pretty big. By comparison, the Earth is 150 million kilometers away from the Sun.

15 posted on 01/28/2015 5:03:53 PM PST by Drew68
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Looks a lot like my bath-tub.

As Lilly Tomlin’s telephone operation Ernestine’s character would say: “One ringy dingy; two ringy dingies; three ringy dingies”.

Sonny & Cher singing: “And the rings go on, and on and on”.


16 posted on 01/28/2015 5:14:20 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Drew68

Accretionists rule !!


17 posted on 01/28/2015 5:24:44 PM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: fivecatsandadog

None of us will have ancestors alive 400 years from now, unless they find a way to extend lifespans to 500 years.


18 posted on 01/28/2015 6:23:01 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

Or frozen...


19 posted on 01/28/2015 7:56:17 PM PST by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: Drew68
Phenomenal cosmic ring structure!

Itty-bitty planetoid...

20 posted on 01/29/2015 8:52:18 AM PST by mikrofon (Astro BUMP)
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