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Why Firearms Makers Are So Worried Even as The Second Amendment Is Stronger than Ever
National Review Online ^ | January 27, 2015 | Ted R. Bromund

Posted on 01/28/2015 6:43:01 AM PST by HammerT

But despite their formidable powers of self-defense, members of the industry are a nervous lot — and not without reason. Two years ago, after Newtown and the 2012 election, the show anxiously awaited President Obama’s executive actions on gun control. A year ago, the (ATT),.. promised nothing but trouble. This year, executive actions were back on the agenda: with the midterm elections now past, the industry fears there’s nothing to stop the president from indulging his anti-firearms instincts.
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But gun-control supporters aren’t merely relying on fooling people with new language. From import bans to action through the Centers for Disease Control, the Obama administration... is doing what it can, where it can. Operation Choke Point, which targets gun sellers.. by attacking their ability to keep a bank account open, has achieved a certain level of notoriety, but other moves are farther under the radar.
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The latest such change came earlier this month, when the ATF issued a new ruling (ATF Rul. 2015–1) that redefines what it means to be a manufacturer of firearms, thereby bringing a new swath of the industry under its control.
Many see this as a late-arriving effort by the ATF to win a legally dubious, ongoing case against Ares Armor, a California-based concern. It’s certainly an example of the government’s changing the rules of the game to its benefit: Only last year, I was standing in the hallways of the show listening as a high-ranking ATF official explained to a trade lawyer that a bent piece of metal with a hole in it wasn’t legally a firearm, and therefore was not subject to ATF control. Now, all of a sudden, that piece of metal requires a firearm manufacturer’s license, if ATF thinks it can be converted into a firearm.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; dearliar; guncontrol
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To: Yo-Yo

Watch them try to decree any kind of metal to be under their control.


21 posted on 01/28/2015 7:17:50 AM PST by HammerT (The Right to keep and bear arms: A Commonsense Civil Right)
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To: HammerT

In both socialism and fascism, the gov’t controls the means of production and distribution,
but under the working definition of socialism, the gov’t actually visibly OWNS the means of production and distribution.

Fascism is the tyrant’s coward’s way. They get total control, but when that inevitably and invariably fails, they can blame the private business owner for the hardships.

Now, socialist apologists will try to say that pure socialism entails “the workers” owning the means of production and distribution. But how are decisions made? Some centralized authority still, and that would be a government, and that would invariably mean there is no “socialism” as they define it. Only communism.


22 posted on 01/28/2015 7:27:52 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: rktman

I would note the near obsession Brits had for confiscating arms from citizens. Gen. Gates blew a gasket when his subordinate failed to secure them.


23 posted on 01/28/2015 7:33:54 AM PST by donozark (Two rights don't make a wrong. But two Wright's can build and airplane.)
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To: donozark

“And dress properly when reporting to me.” :>}


24 posted on 01/28/2015 7:36:40 AM PST by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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To: HammerT

Do you want to know how stupid ATF is? Stupid is dangerous especially when they’re in a position of power and authority.

Here’s an example...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rEuTwYALho&feature=player_embedded


25 posted on 01/28/2015 7:40:44 AM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: HammerT
.. The Second Amendment Is Stronger than Ever

Seriesly ?

26 posted on 01/28/2015 7:51:36 AM PST by tomkat (when all else fails > RTFM)
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To: MrB
Yes, very correct.

In both socialism and fascism, the gov’t controls the means of production and distribution,
but under the working definition of socialism, the gov’t actually visibly OWNS the means of production and distribution.

Fascism is the tyrant’s coward’s way. They get total control, but when that inevitably and invariably fails, they can blame the private business owner for the hardships.

Now, socialist apologists will try to say that pure socialism entails “the workers” owning the means of production and distribution. But how are decisions made? Some centralized authority still, and that would be a government, and that would invariably mean there is no “socialism” as they define it. Only communism.

[I quoted your words to keep a hold of in case I need them for future reference – hope you don’t mind]

But take a look at the definition of the word Socialism in the Oxford dictionary:

Definition of socialism
a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or REGULATED by the community as a whole. policy or practice based on the political and economic theory of socialism.
(in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of Communism.

Note the phrase: owned or REGULATED by the community as a whole.

In that case the government merely CONTROLS the means of production without having to own said means i.e. Fascism.

27 posted on 01/28/2015 7:53:37 AM PST by HammerT (The Right to keep and bear arms: A Commonsense Civil Right)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Gun Control = waiting until the target is within range. :-)


28 posted on 01/28/2015 7:54:28 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: dware
"Do you know that one of the great problems of our age is that we are governed by people who care more about feelings than they do about thoughts and ideas.” ― Margaret Thatcher

29 posted on 01/28/2015 7:57:51 AM PST by HammerT (The Right to keep and bear arms: A Commonsense Civil Right)
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To: HammerT

Yeah, that dictionary definition of socialism is what your average “occupy” sheeperal believes will be implemented under their utopia.

It never works that way, it can’t work that way.
“owned or regulated by the community as a whole”

Oh! Kumbaya!

Nope, won’t work. A strong centralized authority will invariably arise and subjugate that “community as a whole”.


30 posted on 01/28/2015 8:00:11 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB
Yes, they actually believe in that utopian BS.

Fact is, Socialism doesn’t work.

Think of it as a ‘science experiment’ that has been conducted in multiple locations, time periods and conditions and EVERY time has been the same result – Failure.

Consider this Bill Whittle on the subject:

The Loch Ness Monster is a “cryptid” — something rumored to exist but without actual proof. The Socialist Utopia of the progressives is a cryptid too. In his latest Firewall, Bill Whittle shows why Good Socialism, like the Loch Ness Monster, is a giant, air-breathing creature that (conveniently!) NEVER COMES UP FOR AIR.
Published on Sep 25, 2014

LOCH NESS SOCIALISM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1422411861&x-yt-cl=84924572&v=FvfHLr5aEqU&feature=player_embedded

31 posted on 01/28/2015 8:27:18 AM PST by HammerT (The Right to keep and bear arms: A Commonsense Civil Right)
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To: HammerT

Then every plumber or pipe fitter needs a license as the pipes can be made into a slam fire shotgun so easy!

Hint: Thread only ONE END of each pipe. If you thread both, they might say you are making a pipe bomb.


32 posted on 01/28/2015 8:43:07 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Give them enough time they will try that.

Just think of all the bakers who could make flour into a bomb.

There is no end to how much they could try to control.


33 posted on 01/28/2015 9:05:00 AM PST by HammerT (The Right to keep and bear arms: A Commonsense Civil Right)
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To: HammerT

The Demonrat National Communist party also thinks that all Republicans/Conservatives act like Boner and McTurtle.

In this they are quite wrong.


34 posted on 01/28/2015 9:34:54 AM PST by Arm_Bears (Rope. Tree. Politician. Some assembly required.)
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To: Arm_Bears

That indeed.

We want people who’s balls are fully inflated.


35 posted on 01/28/2015 10:04:32 AM PST by HammerT (The Right to keep and bear arms: A Commonsense Civil Right)
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To: HammerT
The burden of The Road to Serfdom is just that NAZIism and Communism are birds of a feather. Reading it put me in mind of a movie I had seen on TV (but failed in my effort to Google it up) in which two counselors to the Sultan are walking together, and two teenagers are belaboring each other. One counselor remarks to the other, “They fight as only half-brothers can.” And so it was between the Third Reich and the USSR.

Serfdom was written before the Holocaust was known, yet FA Hayek predicted - on the basis of the similarities between Communism and Fascism - that dark evil things would be found done by the NAZIs in analogy to the Soviet Gulag, which was publicly known of before the war (if not by that name). For example, Will Rodgers went to the USSR, and wrote about seeing a trainload of people being dispatched to Siberia “. . . and nobody had a ticket back but the engineer."


36 posted on 01/28/2015 1:25:56 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism'; is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Hard to have anything to register/confiscate when all the manufacturers, importers, and retailers have been driven out of business.

They’ve realized that breaking the supply chain is far more effective than trying to enact end-user bans. The “but I can still make one” argument is moot as it entails such small numbers of anything resembling “modern” as is irrelevant. “FMCDH” means little when you can’t obtain, fix, or feed anything worth holding.


37 posted on 01/28/2015 7:03:10 PM PST by ctdonath2 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

Bump


38 posted on 01/28/2015 7:10:02 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Well said.
Check out this video on the cooperation of the Socialist workers party people in Germany and the Socialists in the USSR:

Soviet started WWII Together With Nazi Germany
http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL15BEB3143796F5D5&feature=player_detailpage&v=K2hg2MO6Te0


39 posted on 01/29/2015 8:02:10 AM PST by HammerT (The Right to keep and bear arms: A Commonsense Civil Right)
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