Posted on 01/27/2015 11:06:28 AM PST by MacNaughton
Leaders in nation's largest Protestant denomination are preaching that integrated churches can be a key driver of racial justice in society. But that could be a hard sell to those sitting in Southern Baptist Convention congregations.
The Rev. Russell Moore, who leads the Southern Baptist's Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission, is one of several white leaders calling for multiethnic congregations in the wake of the unrest spurred by the killings of black men by white police officers in Ferguson, Missouri, and New York City.
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How do they propose this be brought about?
In my experience, white people do not seem to be any more comfortable in predominantly black churches as black people do in white churches.
And I KNOW they’re not proposing forced integration.
Moses smell the roses. Churches integrate as the members desire. What is next force busing across town to churches?
” We could always hire a few judges to accomplish “ Forced Churching “
Blacks are free to come into those churches. No one is prohibiting them and the congregations there are not shunning Blacks if they do come into their churches. They will welcome them as fellow Christians.
I fully support integrated churches, but to my knowledge there are no laws keeping blacks and whites from worshiping together.
Only issue is folks have different worship styles. How do they propose overcoming that reality?
(Oh, in my former lily white PCA church we had a black deacon. He was a former black panther whose former life goal was to kill white people.)
My Southern Baptist church is already integrated, and multi-ethnic.
Several years ago, I heard a black pastor of a black church say our congregation could have corporate worship only occasionally because “I can’t take much of your music”. Imagine if one of us had said that.
My thoughts as well. I wonder if the theologically and politically liberal black churches, which overwhelmingly supported Obama in '08 and '12, will be as welcoming of a sudden influx of white people.
First of all, these SBC leaders are “go along to get along” kind of guys.
Second, I don’t know of any Baptist Churches that turn away blacks. The problem is no blacks want to leave their churches to attend a white church.
Yo, leaders, stick to preaching the gospel.
My church has always been integrated. We do it by boundaries. If you live in a certain boundary, you go to the building that services that area. It is pretty simple.
I suspect this will fail, not out of racism against each other, but because of racial preference in their religious experience.
That is, predominantly white religious services tend to be calm and reserved, with limited and ritual only congregational involvement. At length there are times where it is as quiet as a library. It is a subdued and thoughtful experience.
But predominantly black religious services tend to be rather loud, boisterous, and enthusiastic. The congregation is involved in the ceremony and even the sermon.
Of course there is considerable variation in all of this, but it is the general preference of the people involved. Yet an effort to integrate the two cultures will prove unsatisfactory to either group, far less enjoyable that what they were raised with.
I’ve heard that churches are the most segregated places there are but not so in my church. It is mostly people of European descent but at any Mass I go to I see people from Africa, African Americans (there is a difference), several different Asian countries including Viet Nam, the Philippines, and China; hispanic. We all speak English and we all worship Jesus.
My southern baptist church is the epitome of a conservative SBC and we have blacks and whites in our congregation. The whites out number the blacks but there is no conflict, it is what it is. The population of my small town is skewed to more whites than blacks. Our little church has vacation bible school each summer and the local black church always brings a bus full of kids and vice-verse if they have a vbs.
All this sounds like more PC hand wringing for something that occurred 100 or 200 yrs. ago. God leads people to where they attend church not political correctness.
Then you need some golf carts (busses) to cart (bus) folks around to make sure it’s diversified. /a
It boils down to musical taste. Better music in the black churches. Can we integrate with them? Please?
meaning - just like when Holder wants and “honest” discussion on race - SBC Churches now need to integrate so whites can get more racism and guilt thrown their way.
I mean LITERALLY 24/7 ALL NEWS is “social justice” and “white privilege” (which are racist terms), and now those racist terms need to be fed to conservative churches now.
I do less talking and more questions (trial balloons) when I’m around men who are right of center and call themselves Christians. And almost ALL are still completely clueless as to the evil and hatred directed towards them from the US Gov, MSM and all the powerful identity groups.
It’s disgusting the naivete today considering this isn’t 25 or more years ago when the truth could be buried by CBS, NBC, ABC and the Times. If guys don’t get it now, they never will or they will when it’s too late.
Moore knows that. He is also pro-amnesty. People like him says such things as a way to portray themselves in what they think is a more acceptable, morally superior, enlightened, levels. The implications of his statement is belittling to Baptists.
I’ve witnessed a sermon given by none other than Charles Stanley (pretty diverse congregation too), and he railed against the “one” and our gov’t over the sin and downright evil they promote. Lo and behold, blacks by the dozens began making their way towards the exits during this particular sermon.
Good SBC Preachers aren’t afraid to tell the Hard Core truth. Good zombie liberal bed-wetting CINO’s (Christians in Name Only) are only looking to get offended and only want to fit in where their “views” are welcome.
The gospel isn’t something to be played with. People’s literal lives are at stake and that’s why the truth is so important, it must be wielded like a sword.
They can take their stupid Social Project and shove it.
Exactly. What do the liberals and squishy Baptist Mr. Moore want us to do? Quotas in the pews? Black pew, white pew, black pew? Why attack whites over this? Blacks are welcome to attend white Baptist churches. Blacks just don’t want to!
The Southern Baptist Convention, unfortunately, has gone squishy. It elected a black leader a few years ago, and all of sudden the Convention stopped criticizing the black, pro-abort, pro-homosexual socialist president. The convention has also gone soft on gays. Russell Moore is caving in to the left, just like the goofy Pope Francis from Argentina.
The real Southern Baptist leader should be Albert Mohler, President of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. He’s a true conservative who stands up for the truth and fights back against the liberals.
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