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Idea of the Day: How Gun Violence Affects Women in Nevada
americanprogress.org ^ | 1/23/2015 | unknown

Posted on 01/23/2015 9:31:15 AM PST by rktman

Because of his criminal past, Gipson was prohibited from gun ownership under both federal and Nevada state law. However, he had no problem purchasing a .25 caliber handgun from a friend for $50 in cash and $50 in marijuana. He then used the handgun to murder Lavoll. Because Nevada does not require background checks for this type of private gun sale, Gipson’s friend had no obligation to conduct a background check to ensure that Gipson was eligible to possess a firearm.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; guncontrol; nv
"Because Nevada does not require background checks for this type of private gun sale, Gipson’s friend had no obligation to conduct a background check to ensure that Gipson was eligible to possess a firearm." Yup. Once they RIPOS get the UBC initiative on the ballot (since the legislature this upcoming session will NOT act on it.) this murder would have been prevented. Er, probably not but that's liblogic 101. Unless the perp was too scared to break the law when obtaining the weapon. Er, probably not.
1 posted on 01/23/2015 9:31:15 AM PST by rktman
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To: rktman

Riiiiight. Because we all know someone willing to trade a .22 for a bag of illegal dope would certainly perform a background check if it was required by law.


2 posted on 01/23/2015 9:33:42 AM PST by circlecity
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To: rktman

If he knifed her to Death, they wouldn’t have a thing to say.


3 posted on 01/23/2015 9:34:08 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (If you think the Mulatto Marxist is bad, just wait until the Menopausal Marxist shows up.)
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To: circlecity
Riiiiight. Because we all know someone willing to trade a .22 for a bag of illegal dope would certainly perform a background check if it was required by law.


My thoughts exactly./sarc
4 posted on 01/23/2015 9:36:53 AM PST by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: Kickass Conservative

So he ignores the laws concerning murder, marijuana possession, and being a felon in possession of a firearm, but if there was a background check law that one would get his attention.

This crime is an example of why background checks are stupid and useless.


5 posted on 01/23/2015 9:39:17 AM PST by thorvaldr
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To: rktman

So I am supposed to believe that a guy who would trade a gun to a known felon (already a crime) for an illegal substance (also a crime) would have made sure to run a background check on Gipson had that been the law.

Every time I wonder how these gun control scum don’t get laughed out of the room I remember George Carlin. I think about the intelligence of the “average person” and then remember that half the country is even dumber than that.


6 posted on 01/23/2015 9:45:26 AM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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To: rktman

I’m not the first to post the obvious - a man who would trade a gun for illegal drugs doesn’t care if transferring the gun is legal. What amazes me is that liberals can pretend they don’t see that obvious flaw with gun laws achieving their claimed goals.


7 posted on 01/23/2015 9:46:24 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: RightOnTheBorder

LOL! Well, in addition to the UBC initiative coming in ‘16, there is also an intiative that’ll be on the ballot to “Tax and Regulate” MJ in Nevada. What they didn’t bother to tell the IPOS that signed the petition was that this basically means recreational legalization. The gun one was sold to the IPOS as “closing the gun show loophole, stops bad guys from ever getting a gun and ending domestic violence once and for all”. And the IPOS signed away.


8 posted on 01/23/2015 9:52:18 AM PST by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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There is NO SUCH THING as GUN VIOLENCE!!!
There is poeple violence with anything they can pick up and use against another person..............


9 posted on 01/23/2015 9:57:47 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA (I am an American Not a Republican or a Democrat.)
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To: thorvaldr
This crime is an example of why background checks are stupid and useless.

They're not useless to a police state.

10 posted on 01/23/2015 11:32:35 AM PST by glock rocks (Whenever I find myself in a conundrum, I ask myself: What would Elvis do?)
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To: glock rocks

“They’re not useless to a police state.”

If you make note of the fact that National Instant Check had no measurable effect on crime rates when it was implemented, and the fact that statistically most criminals acquire their guns through some transaction similar to this it leads you to ask “so what good are backgrounds checks? Why is the government so insistent on them? If it’s a “background check” why does the form include information identifying the gun involved? How does the serial number of the gun affect whether you are allowed to buy it? If it’s a background check, how come they do it for every purchase instead of doing it once, giving you are card that says “I can buy guns” and take your card away in the event that you become disqualified? Why does the ATF make copies of so many transfers when they are by law not allowed to make a database?” Background checks are backdoor registration, period, end of story. And, as proven in Canada, Germany, New York City, and Australia, registration leads to confiscation.

Also, if the guy who sold him the gun had any reason to believe that he was a felon (paying in marijuana is sometime a tip off) then he was already committing a crime. You don’t need a background check to know this guy can’t have a gun.


11 posted on 01/23/2015 11:51:54 AM PST by thorvaldr
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Background checks are backdoor registration, period, end of story.

Concur.

12 posted on 01/23/2015 11:57:58 AM PST by glock rocks (Whenever I find myself in a conundrum, I ask myself: What would Elvis do?)
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To: thorvaldr
This crime is an example of why background checks are stupid and useless.

But it is a great smokescreen to implement National Gun Registration, which is their main goal.

13 posted on 01/23/2015 3:13:24 PM PST by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: Oatka

“But it is a great smokescreen to implement National Gun Registration, which is their main goal.”

Gun confiscation is their main goal, gun registration is just the necessary stepping stone.


14 posted on 01/23/2015 3:17:56 PM PST by thorvaldr
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To: thorvaldr

Correct.


15 posted on 01/23/2015 3:44:23 PM PST by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: thorvaldr

EXACTLY! He is a criminal sociopath, who has complete CONTEMPT for the law! “One more law” is NOT going to stop such a person! Why do these leftists have such a hard time with this concept???


16 posted on 01/23/2015 3:46:29 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: rktman

Friend knowingly sold a gun to a felon (a felony) and traded for illegal drugs.

He proved he was willing to break the law, yet morons think a 3rd violation would have stopped him.


17 posted on 01/23/2015 5:07:04 PM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: SampleMan

ergo=liblogic. Or just flat out lies which we know is the case. And the IPOS gobble it up like a hot fudge sunday.


18 posted on 01/23/2015 5:18:53 PM PST by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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To: rktman
Criminals don't follow the law, that's how they got their name.

Stupids laws create disrespect for the law. Unconstitutional laws create disrespect for the law. Illegal executive memos create disrespect for the law.

For decades, the American Citizen has lived with the situation, that they break numerous laws everyday without even knowing it. That creates disrespect for the law.

All of these things done by liberals create lawlessness, chaos and lead to violence. They are, the media is too stupid to realize this. So, both advocate even more stupid, illegal and unconstitutional laws to "solve" problems.

This comment by the progressive center for progressive American progress is laugh out loud funny.

19 posted on 01/24/2015 6:57:21 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (You can have freedom or government schools. Choose one.)
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