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Why Everyone Should Be Terrified By The GOP’s Abortion Bill Debacle
The Federalist ^ | 1/22/15

Posted on 01/22/2015 8:50:07 AM PST by roses of sharon

This level of incompetence and cowardice should alarm us all.

If Republicans can’t pass wildly popular legislation protecting innocent unborn children, what’s going to happen when they face difficult legislative battles? It’s best to view this as a very simple test for House Republicans. A test they failed miserably.

In an essay at National Affairs, Michael Needham looks at the contrast between the grassroots and party establishment. He talks about the fight over the reauthorization of the Export-Import Bank, a fund for corporate welfare. The establishment fought against the grassroots tooth and nail in order to keep the bank. There have been similar fights over agriculture subsidies and Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac’s influence in the housing market. The moneyed interests fight against the conservative insurgents — and the donor class usually wins.

(Excerpt) Read more at thefederalist.com ...


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More GOP perfidy.
1 posted on 01/22/2015 8:50:07 AM PST by roses of sharon
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To: roses of sharon

There can be no question but that Boehner and his minions are moral cowards, compromised by the blackmailing Obama administration. These so called leaders do not represent the great swath of American voters. They, too, must be impeached or recalled.


2 posted on 01/22/2015 8:56:12 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: roses of sharon

3 posted on 01/22/2015 9:00:34 AM PST by Bratch
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To: Bratch

Neither does life have a voice, “when money talks”.


4 posted on 01/22/2015 9:09:14 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: roses of sharon

‘This level of incompetence and cowardice should alarm us all.’

It’s the Boehner way. He’s been doing the exact same thing for years. That’s why we clamored for a change in leadership. The DC phone lines melted down. & the Republican politicians gave us the middle finger.

The same thing will keep on happening until a few high profile figures, such as Boehner, lose their primaries. Cantor was a good start. We need several more, before we’ll have their undivided attention. [If there’s anything left to salvage by then.]


5 posted on 01/22/2015 9:09:49 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: roses of sharon
What "test" have they passed, would be more to the point. They've failed every test of conservatism they've faced so far, as the majority.
6 posted on 01/22/2015 9:14:27 AM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: roses of sharon

It’s not incompetence; it’s being done on purpose.


7 posted on 01/22/2015 9:16:48 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Louis Foxwell
There can be no question but that Boehner and his minions are moral cowards, compromised by the blackmailing Obama administration.

There's another explanation: they agree with the policies and stances that their opposition (the Democrats) endorse.

These so called leaders do not represent the great swath of American voters.

So?
They're elite and you're not.
You've given them your vote, so you've served your purpose — you are now of no use until the next election where OH MY GOD, IT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT ELECTION EVER! YOU HAVE TO VOTE REPUBLICAN OR THE DEMOCRATS WILL WIN!!!
(Yes, you should be angry.)

They, too, must be impeached or recalled.

They can't be — you see, they are federal employees and therefore not accountable to the States.

We could fix this, but it would require some changes.

8 posted on 01/22/2015 9:21:28 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: mrsmel
What "test" have they passed, would be more to the point. They've failed every test of conservatism they've faced so far, as the majority.

That goes back to when they held the Presidency and the Legislature under Bush.
They haven't stood up for anything they say they're for in the the last decade (excepting, perhaps, as a kabuki play right after Sandy Hook where the elites saw that passing the gun control would spark CWII and hit the "abort" button).

9 posted on 01/22/2015 9:24:08 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

I really believe that the left has been using its tried-and-true tactic of infiltration on the Republican party. It’s worked on everything else, up to, most recently, the formerly staunchly conservative bastion of the military, and on nominal Christianity.


10 posted on 01/22/2015 9:28:04 AM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Fantasywriter

If there is any strategy involved... which I doubt... it is to not do anything that will energize the opposition so that they will not bother showing up during the next election. It is similar to Obama’s foreign policy of “leading from behind”.


11 posted on 01/22/2015 9:32:52 AM PST by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: fireman15

I have to grant that that’s a remote possibility, but what purpose does it serve in holding fast to conservative principles? It gets them re-elected, but to what purpose?


12 posted on 01/22/2015 9:39:19 AM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: roses of sharon

The country club set isn’t bothered by abortions anymore.


13 posted on 01/22/2015 9:39:44 AM PST by Pecos (What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly.)
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To: fireman15

That could be it. Just as likely is the Boehner Way, summarized: ‘Don’t rock the boat; don’t upset the applecart; maintain the status quo.’

Boehner thinks he’s in DC to get along with his fellow Permanent Political Classers, of both parties, amass wealth, wield power, play golf and enjoy drinks at the country club. Anything that poses the least threat to these ends must be massively and quickly crushed. Anything that furthers these ends must be promulgated.

Hence the problem. Both Boehner and McConnell need to go, for starters. All their closest associates, lieutenants and enablers must also go.

Odds of getting that done are low. But it is our only hope.


14 posted on 01/22/2015 9:44:17 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: OneWingedShark
There's another explanation: they agree with the policies and stances that their "opposition" (the Democrats) endorse.

Bingo! Been saying this for years, but I guess it makes us feel better if they are just stupid.


Vote GOPe! Woo! Woo!



15 posted on 01/22/2015 9:53:56 AM PST by itsahoot (55 years a republican-Now Independent. Will write in Sarah Palin, no matter who runs.98¢-89¢<1 dim)
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To: mrsmel
I really believe that the left has been using its tried-and-true tactic of infiltration on the Republican party.

That's self-evident, I think.

It’s worked on everything else, up to, most recently, the formerly staunchly conservative bastion of the military, and on nominal Christianity.

It's a sad thing those two are compromised, particularly the latter as it essentially confirms the title of this book.

16 posted on 01/22/2015 10:00:58 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: roses of sharon
If the Republicans pass the law, it's 100% guaranteed that Obama would veto it, and the Republicans would not be able to override it. So - there is ZERO chance for the law to be passed while the Democrats hold the WH.

So, would passing the law, and having Obama veto it, make it more, or less likely that the law eventually is passed?

The answer is less.

In order for the Republicans to pass the law they need to hold onto both houses of Congress, and win the WH. The best way to do that is to lower the Democratic turnout in 2016. How do you do that? One way is make Obama irrelevant, and you don't do that by allowing him to veto bills the left is adamantly against - we need those people not to show up in 2016.

The left gets people to show up using social issues, the right by fiscal issues. We do not want the low information voters on the left to view Obama as the defender of their rights. We need them to see Obama as not doing much for them. That way they will be much less likely to show up in 2016.


The Republicans are not going to be able to pass any 'conservative' legislation while Obama is in the WH, he's comping at the bit to veto that type of legislation. The Republicans need to stay focused on fiscal/jobs legislation, let him try to veto that. That way they can win the WH in 2016, and pass their social issues.
17 posted on 01/22/2015 10:10:02 AM PST by MMaschin
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To: itsahoot
The GOPe strategy is to demoralize the true conservatives in congress so they become so frustrated that they do not seek reelection in two years. Other conservatives will also see the futility of going to congress and they will opt out of primaries.

The only solution to this mess is a third party movement but most conservatives don't have the stomach for it.

18 posted on 01/22/2015 10:11:11 AM PST by Russ (Repeal the '17th amendment)
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To: Louis Foxwell

“There can be no question but that Boehner and his minions are moral cowards, compromised by the blackmailing Obama administration.”

Careful here. When you mention blackmail, you are giving them an out, an excuse. They are moral cowards, period. No excuse.


19 posted on 01/22/2015 10:12:14 AM PST by LaRueLaDue
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To: MMaschin

Conservatives will deny Republicans the Presidency in 2016.


20 posted on 01/22/2015 10:17:59 AM PST by roses of sharon ("Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise." Luke 23:43)
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