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Does Europe Have No-go Zones?
Townhall.com ^ | January 21, 2015 | Daniel Pipes

Posted on 01/21/2015 6:11:26 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

Comments by Steven Emerson on Fox News have prompted a heated debate over whether predominantly Muslim "no-go" zones exist in Europe. On Jan. 11, Emerson said they "exist throughout Europe … they're places where the governments like France, Britain, Sweden, Germany don't exercise any sovereignty. .. you basically have zones where Shariah courts were set up, where Muslim density is very intense, where the police don't go in, and where it's basically a separate country almost, a country within a country."

Although Emerson, whom I admire for his moral courage and investigative skills, immediately apologized for his "terrible error" of saying that cities like Birmingham, England, "are totally Muslim where non-Muslims just simply don't go," he did not address the larger question of whether no-go zones, in fact, do "exist throughout Europe" and are places where governments "don't exercise any sovereignty."

Is he right about this?

In a 2006 weblog entry, I called Muslim enclaves in Europe no-go zones as a non-euphemistic equivalent for the French phrase Zones Urbaines Sensibles, or Sensitive Urban Zones. No-go zones subsequently became standard in English to describe Muslim-majority areas in West Europe.

After spending time in the banlieues (suburbs) of Paris in January 2013, as well as in their counterparts in Athens, Berlin, Brussels, Copenhagen, Malmö, and Stockholm, however, I have had second thoughts. I found that those areas "are not full-fledged no-go zones" --- meaning places where the government had lost control of territory. No war lords dominate; Shari'a is not the law of the land. I expressed regret back then for having used the term no-go zones.

So, what are these places? A unique and as-yet un-named mix.

On the one hand, West European states can intervene anywhere and at any time in their sovereign territory. As the shoot-out in Verviers and the subsequent raids in Belgium suggest, their overwhelming advantage in force – including military, intelligence, and police – means they have not ceded control.

On the other hand, governments often choose not to impose their will on Muslim-majority areas, allowing them considerable autonomy, including in some cases the Shariah courts that Emerson mentioned. Alcohol and pork are effectively banned in these districts, polygamy and burqas commonplace, police enter only warily and in force, and Muslims get away with offences illegal for the rest of population.

The Rotherham, England, child sex scandal offers a powerful example. An official inquiry found that for sixteen years, 1997-2013, a ring of Muslim men sexually exploited – through abduction, rape, gang rape, trafficking, prostitution, torture – at least 1,400 non-Muslim girls as young as 11. The police received voluminous complaints from the girls' parents but did nothing; they could have acted, but chose not to.

According to the inquiry, "the Police gave no priority to CSE [child sexual exploitation], regarding many child victims with contempt and failing to act on their abuse as a crime." Even more alarming, in some cases, "fathers tracked down their daughters and tried to remove them from houses where they were being abused, only to be arrested themselves when police were called to the scene." Worse, the girls "were arrested for offences such as breach of the peace or being drunk and disorderly, with no action taken against the perpetrators of rape and sexual assault against children."

Another example, also British, was the so-called Operation Trojan Horse that flourished from 2007 until 2014, in which (again, according to an official inquiry), a group of school functionaries developed "a strategy to take over a number of schools in Birmingham and run them on strict Islamic principles."

What does one call Rotherham and Birmingham? They are not no-go zones, neither in terms of geography or sovereignty. This is where we – Emerson, others (such as Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal), and I stumbled. The English language lacks a readily-available term for this. And for good reason: I know of no historical parallel, in which a majority population accepts the customs and even the criminality of a poorer and weaker immigrant community. The world has never seen anything comparable to the contemporary West's blend of achievement, timidity, and guilt, of hugely superior power matched by a deep reluctance to use it.

Instead of no-go zones, I propose semi-autonomous sectors, a term that emphasizes their indistinct and non-geographic nature – thus permitting a more accurate discussion of what is, arguably, West Europe's most acute problem.


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1 posted on 01/21/2015 6:11:26 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Bump


2 posted on 01/21/2015 6:15:26 AM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Bammy,s White House is a zone where Share-ria rulz. No rule of traditional law...


3 posted on 01/21/2015 6:21:16 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

http://sig.ville.gouv.fr/Atlas/ZUS/

Sensitive urban zones is what France calls them.


4 posted on 01/21/2015 6:24:43 AM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“No-go zones” is good enough and evidently too close to the mark for the Eurowienies! We went to one once, by mistake, on the Metro in Paris. They definitely should be MARKED for tourists. We got out of there so fast!!


5 posted on 01/21/2015 6:24:52 AM PST by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Sensitive Urban Zone is to No-Go Zone as Independent Payment Advisory Board is to Death Panel.

6 posted on 01/21/2015 6:44:43 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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Alcohol and pork are effectively banned in these districts, polygamy and burqas commonplace, police enter only warily and in force, and Muslims get away with offences illegal for the rest of population.

Sounds like a no-go zone to me.

7 posted on 01/21/2015 6:44:47 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: bboop
“No-go zones” is good enough and evidently too close to the mark for the Eurowienies! We went to one once, by mistake, on the Metro in Paris. They definitely should be MARKED for tourists. We got out of there so fast!!


Try a walk through the Compton area of Los Angeles to see the US equivalent...:^)

8 posted on 01/21/2015 7:25:25 AM PST by az_gila
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Ghettos ?


9 posted on 01/21/2015 7:33:38 AM PST by molson209 (Blank)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

A few years back, when we were still living in Germany, there were a lot of articles posted right here on freerepublic about the no-go zones in Paris after hundreds of cars were overturned and torched during demonstrations. It was translated from the French that police did not enter these areas, nor did EMT personnel, due to the fact that the youth (Muslim) had little regard for authority.


10 posted on 01/21/2015 7:54:26 AM PST by Shery (Pray for righteousness to be restored and for the peace of Jerusalem.)
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Bottom line is that the Saudis own the US press, and they don’t want the US press to publicize the no-go zones because they want us to remain sleeping while the domestic Musloid cancer metastasizes.


11 posted on 01/21/2015 7:57:18 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Offend a Christian and he is obliged to pray for you. Offend a Muslim and he is obliged to kill you.)
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To: Shery

True, they don’t use the word no-go. What happens...if cops get the call for a particular bad neighborhood...they only go during daylight hours, with two vehicles (normal German practice), at least four cops but sometimes six to eight, and it’s all planned out...grab the person and get the heck out of the area.

I can point out for Frankfurt....most all of the city is accessiable, but for example...no one should hang around the train-station block after dark (half-a-mile in any direction) because of drugs, dealers, and crazies.


12 posted on 01/21/2015 8:00:55 AM PST by pepsionice
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I lived in Paris, France for 3 months last summer. A couple hundred yards just Northeast of the Gare Du Nord train station. Kind of right in the middle of it. There are no “no-go zones” that I can remember. You knew the neighborhoods to be careful in, they were the ones cooking sheeps heads on rotisserie grills, on the sidewalks. Yuck!


13 posted on 01/21/2015 9:14:09 AM PST by not2be4gotten.com
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14 posted on 01/21/2015 10:55:31 AM PST by QuisCustodiet1776 (Live free or die.)
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To: Texas Eagle

My co-workers husband is from Sweden, she lived there for 6 months when they first married and periodically travel back to Sweden to visit relatives according to her Sweden has several cities that the police, fire, EMT, etc... NO one goes to because they are muslim controlled. Despite the wishes of the multiculturalist traitors there are no-go zones all over Europe and it’s their own damned fault!


15 posted on 01/21/2015 11:07:02 AM PST by sarge83
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