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Why Wages Lag Employment Recovery
RCM ^ | 01/19/2015 | Robert Samuelson

Posted on 01/19/2015 6:20:13 AM PST by SeekAndFind

The great wage mystery deepens. In economic recoveries, there usually comes a time when strong job gains lead to strong wage gains. Businesses must pay more to recruit and retain the workers they need. Not this time - or at least not yet. The unemployment rate has dropped from a peak of 10 percent in October 2009 to 5.6 percent at the end of 2014. But hourly wage gains haven't accelerated. They've plodded along at about a 2 percent annual rate, roughly matching inflation.

Economists are baffled. "This labor market recovery looks different from anything since World War II," says University of Chicago economist Steven Davis. Depending on the indicator, the job market appears either tight or loose. Low unemployment rates suggest tight, Davis says. So does the average time it takes firms to fill a vacancy; at nearly 25 days, it is just above levels before the Great Recession. But weak wage growth and the high share of jobless out of work for more than six months - a third of all unemployment - indicate a loose market.

(Excerpt) Read more at realclearmarkets.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: economy; jobs; unemployment; wages
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To: eyeamok
Almost 93 million people of working age are unemployed...

We hear that kind of number a lot but nobody seems to know where it comes from.  The BLS says that the total working age not-in-jail population, minus the number of employed, leaves 102 million.

 It's a number that was steady before the recession and then suddenly leapt 11 million.   Another number the BLS publishes is the fact that we've also seen 6 million suddenly bumped from full time to part time.

21 posted on 01/19/2015 10:00:08 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: spintreebob

Correct. Plus illegals and low skill immigrants driving the benefits down. Toss in municipalities, counties and states desperately sucking tax money to pay pensions and cronies and you’ve got the current economic picture.

Certain markets are hot and certain cold, but overall it’s tepid.


22 posted on 01/19/2015 11:25:57 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: mmichaels1970

We cut cap gains, but left the labor taxes in place. That made/makes labor more expensive for both the employer and the employee. Take a look at the welfare cliff a person faces if they try to improve themselves.

Add the fact that government school central planners decided that everyone needed to go to college. Like global warming, the Food Pyramid, the War on Poverty, et. al. their top down, big money policy wasted countless lives and cause all kinds of misallocations in the economic lives of people.

We need good trades people. Get rid of local licensing, zoning and permitting regulations that stop people from working or innovating.


23 posted on 01/19/2015 11:29:06 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: spintreebob
On the front page of the weekend IBD:

Obama Mandates On Employers Now Exceed $5 per hour.

Economists...the numbers don't tell the story. They just provide clues to the story.

24 posted on 01/19/2015 12:15:32 PM PST by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the eGOP does not want you.)
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To: 1010RD
We cut cap gains, but left the labor taxes in place. That made/makes labor more expensive for both the employer and the employee...

HUH?

25 posted on 01/19/2015 12:17:36 PM PST by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the eGOP does not want you.)
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To: SeekAndFind

People leaving the workforce make the unemployment rate look onamatastic.

Obamacare raised the cost of hiring

Immigrants and illegal work cheap.


26 posted on 01/19/2015 2:00:22 PM PST by Organic Panic
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To: thackney; expat_panama; 1010RD; mmichaels1970; Georgia Girl 2; eyeamok; Organic Panic; All
From Work's for Squares - The Decline of Work - B (sub), by Gene Epstein, 2014 August 30


27 posted on 01/19/2015 6:35:59 PM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: CutePuppy
Sorces: Bureau of Labor Statistics and Social Security Administration

 


28 posted on 01/19/2015 6:41:18 PM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: txrefugee

Consider this [seemingly implausible] scenario: Employer A has employee X working 40 hours per week. Employer B has employee Z working 40 hours a week, at the same wage as employee X.

Due to ObamaCare and/or other regulations/mandates/taxes Employer A cuts hours of Employee X to 20hrs/wk, and hires Employee Z (who just had his work time cut to 20 hrs/wk by Employer B) for other 20 hrs/wk, while Employee Z found additional 20 hrs/wk employment with Employer B.

From the point of labor statistics, you previously had 2 employers providing 80 hrs/wk to 2 employees (resulting in 2 jobs) at certain $$ rate per hour. Now you have same 2 employers, but it's now 4 employees (or 2 employees, if you prefer) working at the same $$ rate (resulting in 4 jobs), most likely with reduced non-wage benefits.

Voilà! The "economy" has just created 2 "new" jobs.

That's how it goes, and everybody knows.

29 posted on 01/19/2015 6:58:54 PM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: CutePuppy; thackney; expat_panama; mmichaels1970; Georgia Girl 2; eyeamok; Organic Panic

David Autor is spot on. He’s been studying this for a long time. I believe you’ll find that US tax policy punishes the ‘working poor’ and creates a massive welfare cliff.

I know a guy on disability because he had to get a pin in his wrist. You wouldn’t notice any reduction in flexibility while he plays poker. He’s been on it for over 15 years. He makes side money in cash. A GOP POTUS and Congress could end this fast by paying a bounty as a percentage of benefits to the fraudulent recipient and doctors.

Democratcare itself puts a $5/hour burden on labor. Toss in state, county and local taxation, licensing, permitting and zoning laws and you make labor a suckers game.


30 posted on 01/20/2015 3:32:40 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: gogeo

‘Huh’ is not sufficiently descriptive, FRiend.


31 posted on 01/20/2015 3:38:44 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: kiryandil

Worse than stupid. He’s the professor who’s book most college educated economists have read. He started in 1948 and noted that Soviet Russia is an excellent example of how well a planned economy can work.

He’s been hoping America would follow suit for 60+ years.


32 posted on 01/20/2015 3:44:34 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: expat_panama

So imagine the economic effects of that on the nation. Things change and influence comes from the margins. We’ve lost the productivity and now bear the burden of 11 million jobless, plus the partial drag and burden of 6 million who want full-time, but now are part-time.

If we had a neutral and honest media this would be the story day in and day out.


33 posted on 01/20/2015 3:58:35 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: CutePuppy

Incentives matter. The welfare-industrial complex is real and it must be destroyed. Politically, it’s a hot potato. We need this Congress to hamper Obama with conservative populism. He’s on the offense, keep him and his Dems on the defense.

Think of all the crazy, radical Lefty judges Obama’s appointed to life terms. It’s a mess.


34 posted on 01/20/2015 4:01:06 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: SeekAndFind

Wages are not rising, because there is no employment recovery.

America has nearly 100,000,000 now out of work.


35 posted on 01/20/2015 4:04:24 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html)
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