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Guantanamo or Navy brig? [Is Obama setting the stage to return Gitmo to Cuban jurisdiction?)
Post and Courier, South Carolina ^ | January 16, 2015

Posted on 01/17/2015 2:29:09 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

President Barack Obama has been making progress on his pledge to shut down the prison at Guantanamo Naval Base in Cuba, having transferred out more than 20 prisoners since last fall, leaving fewer than 60 the administration considers eligible for release if countries can be found to accept them.

That would leave some 70 hard-core terrorists at the base. The president is reported to believe that Congress will then reject the high cost of keeping the facility open for these 70 prisoners, including the man who organized the aircraft attacks of 9/11, Khalid Sheik Mohammed, and agree to transfer them to a security prison in the United States.

The likeliest place would be the Navy brig in Hanahan, which has already held some high-risk terrorist prisoners. It could become the new Guantanamo. Why it would be cheaper to house them here than on the Cuban base is not clear, unless Mr. Obama also has a plan to return Guantanamo to Cuban jurisdiction, as suggested by some commentators.

That raises a wholly different set of questions, since Guantanamo has been the Navy’s main operating center for the Caribbean Sea and East Coast of South America for more than a century. If Cuba had a friendly government, the base would undoubtedly be welcome. But Cuba does not have a friendly government, despite Mr. Obama’s recent decision to resume diplomatic relations. Giving up Guantanamo should not be a U.S. objective.

Meanwhile, developments in the threat posed by Islamic terrorism raise the question of whether there may be a new reason to keep open the prison facility at Guantanamo. The success of the Islamic State in attracting Western adherents has led to a rapid increase in the number of trained terrorists with U.S. passports — now said to be in the range of 150 — and European passports with automatic entry to the United States.

The leader of the Islamic State has urged these fighters to return to their home countries and wage war on them.

In addition, other Islamic terrorist networks are still sending jihadists to attack Western targets. Al-Qaida in Yemen has claimed a connection to the French residents who attacked the Paris satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo. (The New York Times reports that the majority of Guantanamo prisoners the Obama administration is seeking to release come from Yemen, a nation in the throes of at least two Islamist rebellions.)

The current strategy of drone attacks on jihad leaders gathers very little intelligence about their plans for attacks on the United States. Perhaps the time has come, as Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., has suggested, to resume the pre-Obama policy of tracking down those leaders, capturing them and letting them be questioned by skilled interrogators within accepted rules for treatment of prisoners.

Guantanamo, not the Navy brig in Hanahan, remains the logical place to detain such terror suspects.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Cuba; Editorial; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cuba; cubarelations; gitmo; guantanamo; islamicterrorism; terrorism
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To: RedEyeJack

Hawaii is next.

http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/27868207/native-hawaiians-debate-best-for-path-to-sovereignty


21 posted on 01/17/2015 4:03:27 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If there was any real justice in this country, Congress would impeach this piece of rat filth, try him for treason and send HIM to jail.


22 posted on 01/17/2015 4:04:16 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Obama: 7 acts of blatant treason and counting.)
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To: tumblindice

Tell me about it, this Congress is a complete joke, just as complicit as him. Nothing but a bunch of back stabbing treasonous slimebags to their own country.


23 posted on 01/17/2015 4:06:24 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Obama: 7 acts of blatant treason and counting.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

It looks like the Haughty John Kerry did that comedy show in Paris (embarrassing Americans) just to take the heat (and focus) off Obama and his absence from the gathering of world leaders marching against terrorism earlier in the week.


24 posted on 01/17/2015 4:08:53 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: tumblindice
United States Congress. Please pick up the white courtesy phone.
Hello? US Congress? Are you there? .....................(crickets)

We still have a congress?


25 posted on 01/17/2015 4:10:25 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; Fred Nerks

[Is Obama setting the stage to return Gitmo to Cuban jurisdiction?)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

You bet he is. Once Obama normalizes relations with Cuba, he will present Cuba with a rental check for Guantanamo’s 60 or so year rental ( USA send a rental check every year but it has never been cashed in 60 years or so). Cuba accepts the check, and then Obama signs GITMO facility back over to CUBA as a lessor.Obama has administrative authority to do that.

This closes GITMO forever.The detainees are either transferred to 3rd parties or they can opt to become Cuban immigrants.

This is the scenario most likely to occur if Congress successfully legislates to keep GITMO open.

Obama is so sneaky, he has everyone watching his right hand, while the left hand is doing the dirty.


26 posted on 01/17/2015 4:36:54 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Let’s face it folks, Bam makes Benedict Arnold look like a patriot. From closing Gitmo, to freeing terrorists, Fast & Furious, IRS scandal, refusing to enforce immigration laws, Benghazi, appointing czars without congressional approval etc etc. he illustrates the traitor he is. He should be impeached.


27 posted on 01/17/2015 4:39:38 AM PST by kenmcg
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Why do you think it was a ‘done deal’ - as opposed to a way to give the finger to the French?
28 posted on 01/17/2015 4:44:17 AM PST by GOPJ (NYT "Free Speech" - ISIS can post severed heads to twitter but we can't post Mohammed cartoons.)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Amen and amen again.


29 posted on 01/17/2015 5:07:34 AM PST by FES0844
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Yes absolutely!!! He wants to One Up Carter after he gave away the Panama Canal!!


30 posted on 01/17/2015 5:12:25 AM PST by Ann Archy (ABORTION....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: cardinal4

56 MILLION DEAD BABIES and GAY SEX EVERYWHERE!!! KICKING GOD OUT OF OUR COUNTRY!!!! THIS is how we got to this point and it’s only going to get WORSE if we don’t turn back to God.


31 posted on 01/17/2015 5:13:54 AM PST by Ann Archy (ABORTION....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: livius

If they want to, we could house a few at Red Onion at Wise County in far Southwest Virginia. I hear it gets rather cold on that mountain this time of year.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Onion_State_Prison


32 posted on 01/17/2015 8:19:20 AM PST by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Of course he is.

The congress needs to start working on stopping that right now.

Yeah, Obama is enabling radical violent murdering Islamic terrorism by realeasing the worst of the worst terrorists from Gitmo to get back in the fight against the free world and primarily Israel and the USA.

What a traitor, the Muslim Brotherhood is running the White House.


33 posted on 01/17/2015 10:04:19 AM PST by Syncro (Benghazi-LIES/CoverupIRS-LIES/CoverupDOJ-NO Justice--Etc Marxist Treason IMPEACH!)
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To: Vaquero
Ah ha, so that is why all the scaffolding on the Capitol building!

Kinda like what the Islamic fanatics did to the Hebrew/Israeli Holy Site in Jerusalem, they put a muslim dome on the rock.

34 posted on 01/17/2015 10:07:22 AM PST by Syncro (Benghazi-LIES/CoverupIRS-LIES/CoverupDOJ-NO Justice--Etc Marxist Treason IMPEACH!)
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To: cardinal4

I think allowing our Anglo-Saxon/Celtic and Dutch kith and kin in Rhodesia and South Africa to be thrown under the Afro-Marxist bus was a big part of it.


35 posted on 01/17/2015 10:18:34 AM PST by hawkboy
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; Mark17

Hopefully the Philippines would then take their place as the 50th state.


36 posted on 01/17/2015 10:22:40 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: livius

We don’t need the terrorists on our soil.

Agreed if they want to clear out Gitmo I good with that, let’s convert a rusty old oil tanker into a prison barge and anchor it in international waters off Alaska.


37 posted on 01/17/2015 11:40:04 AM PST by usurper (Liberals GET OFF MY LAWN)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

he really is trying to make Carter look awesome...


38 posted on 01/17/2015 11:49:44 AM PST by GeronL
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It would not surprise me. I was surprised when a majority voted to ensconce him in the white House. It surprised me somewhat when the electorate decided they wanted him to remain there [in the White House]. Since that time, the only thing that would surprise me is Obama doing something good and decent or doing something that would be beneficial to the United States of America. If either happened, I do not think my heart could take the shock.


39 posted on 01/17/2015 12:01:21 PM PST by sport
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To: livius
We actually lease the Guantanamo property from the Cubans, although I don’t think the rent has been paid for some time. It’s been a Navy base for over 100 years.

The rent has been paid every year since Castro took over but he has refused to cash the checks as a protest.

On a separate note, the first thing I thought of when I heard Obama was normalizing relations with Cuba was that he was looking for a way to get rid of Guantanamo and with it the terrorists.

40 posted on 01/17/2015 12:01:37 PM PST by GATOR NAVY
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