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Report Finds No Substitute for Mass Data Collection
New York TImes ^ | January 15, 2015 | By DAVID E. SANGER

Posted on 01/15/2015 8:03:15 PM PST by MeshugeMikey

A federal study released on Thursday concluded that there was no effective alternative to the government’s “bulk collection” of basic information about every telephone call made in the United States, a practice that civil rights advocates call overly intrusive.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: insane
okay..... more settled science.... I guess?

a federal study...woooooo

1 posted on 01/15/2015 8:03:15 PM PST by MeshugeMikey
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To: MeshugeMikey

I cannot imagine for even a New York Second that the hundreds of delegates for the convention that proposed the original 10 Amendments to the Constitution (the Bill of Rights), and those members of the legislatures in each of the 13 States who debated and then voted to ratify those Amendments would think that the Fourth Amendment would allow a federal official to stop each traveler crossing every state line and copy the contents of every saddle bag and every carriage box of documents, just in case in some future dispute the evidence would easily be retrieved upon perfunctory approval by a federal magistrate.

The ONLY means to prevent government from violating the Fourth as plainly as they currently do is to prevent them from having the means to do so. It should be clear that government will always give itself permission to do something that it dearly wants to do, no matter how much it violates the plain letter of the Bill of Rights.


2 posted on 01/15/2015 8:14:53 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: theBuckwheat

such stuff is so much a part of the bizarre synthetic fabric of todays society that most have no idea that its NOT legal


3 posted on 01/15/2015 8:23:31 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: MeshugeMikey

We need to limit the ability of the government to do this kind of mass data collection. it violates our liberties, it’s unconstitutional, and it is unnecessary.


4 posted on 01/15/2015 8:32:10 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: theBuckwheat
It's absolute Tyranny. Searches should be based on probable cause only. There's simply no valid reason to do what they're doing besides total control.

It has nothing to do with fighting terrorism. Indeed, it likely makes terrorism more likely by providing too much noise and preventing them from focusing on the actual threats which do exist.

Rationalizing totalitarianism is the norm for all branches of government nowadays, and the elite of both mainstream parties.

It can only be stopped by resistance and revolt. I don't believe voting very 2 years will ever have any effect.

Enjoy your chains, everybody, because we're definitely all wearing them. And, collectively, we appear to be too cowardly to cast them off. Plenty of us are willing, but that and a dime will get us a cup of coffee...

5 posted on 01/15/2015 8:43:05 PM PST by sargon
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Well gosh, if they say they need it and there is no alternative, I guess we shouldn’t oppose it.

But I wonder then, why are they bringing in tens of millions of Mexicans, and millions of every stripe of moslem they can from the worst countries, selling weapon to the Syrian al qeida, and arming the cartels, refusing to deport the Tsarnaev brothers, focusing on TEA as a terrorist group, promoting Major Hassan when he was writing to anwar al alwaki, and bringing in all the skinnies from Blackhawk down?


6 posted on 01/15/2015 8:43:37 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Oh, I thought the saying was: “There ain’t no substitute for cubes”.


7 posted on 01/15/2015 8:46:37 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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Just a further indicator that we’ve lost our government.

It runs on its own inertia now.

You can’t even react fast enough to the constant tyranny on display these days with a government for sale to the highest bidder.

And a press totally abandoning it’s historical responsibility to become an advocate for that tyranny. As long as its the tyranny they agree with.


8 posted on 01/15/2015 9:03:44 PM PST by headstamp 2
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To: DesertRhino

a major conundrum

ours is not to simply do and die,

ours is indeed to question WHY!


9 posted on 01/16/2015 7:29:17 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: TBP

It was stunning to see that the government....went to the government for some “study” which proved that “we” “need” this mass collection of PRIVATE data...


10 posted on 01/16/2015 7:31:35 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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